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I am really getting tire of this NR vs. R debate.

Why are NR getting on the land? Very simple they ask!!!!!!! (True some pay, but alot don't). It is about time that resident hunters get this in their head. The worst that can happen is the guy says no.

Growing up and living in Central North Dakota I can't tell you how many times I had my decoy's jumped by resident non-local hunters looking for an advantage. Problem was they jumped decoys set on posted land that they didn't have permission for. Hell had they asked before hand they could have joined with me and my buddies more time then not they drove by us setting up, but no that ment talking to locals. Not once in 15 plus years of hunting did I have a NR shoot my decoys.

After NR's started showing up I still had access and made some good friends. Mosts NR's aren't going to screw up their vaction by not doing the simple things. They asked.

I lived out in the Western part of the state for 10 years and never had a problem with access, Why I asked. True some wanted to be paid but there are many forms payment. Usally it was in the form of helping work calves, sending some goose meat, sending deer sausage, controlling praire dog towns or helping control the coyote problems. Point is I still asked.

Point is we as hunters don't own the land or the birds, The farmers/ranchers own the land and the state as a whole owns the birds. And the farmer/ranchers really just want to know who is on their land. But until you ask they won't know and most likely won't ever let you on if you go without asking.

As far as guides and outfitters go, I believe it should be regulated and have some form of minumum standards that the guides have to follow. But as far as capping there business I don't think so. Would you want the goverment telling you how much you can make?

My whole point in this discussion is offer to go that extra mile and help out and simply just ask. The worst they can say is no.

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As far as I am concerned if a guide is going to lease hunting land a percentage should then be left open to non-fee hunting (which alot of them do). The only other way I feel they should be regulated is by how they operate their business (certifing their guides, certifing vehicles that carry hunters). Basically making it a respectable bussiness that pays its share. And also gets rid of the things that happened by Richardton/Hebron.

Even with the recent increase in NR and guides we still are not at the amount of hunters of the 70 and 80's. Like it or not if we don't start getting some of the populations under control, nature will start controlling it and then we will have bigger problems (ie. CRD, Black tung, goverment destruction of goose flocks).

And with all due respect I hunted alot of Fee land with out ever paying a dime. There are always ways around the money thing. You just have to realize that they are trying to make a buck or life a little easier just like us. I guess in reality I don't see the same problems you do because I haven't had a problem with access. And yes I have fee hunted too.
 
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