i think your right Ken. I have never heard anything bad about either gun. I did have a browning BPS and I liked the feel, but it was too heavy and you didn't dare pull it apart in the field because a dozen pieces would fall out.
You guys probaly wont agree with me but I have had the worst luck with Nova sorry to say. I have had so many probalems with it. and I dont know why. From choke tubes to expanding in my barrel so I cant get them out to the firing pin not working. I have cleaned it after ever hunt, and takin really good care of it. But I think it is time for a new gun. I did shoot a tegauge for one waterfowl season and loved it! But i went outn and bought the nova so i could be more versitile, but I am goin to switch bach to the SP-10 or Browing Bps pump,
I hunted with a Remington 870 Wingmaster for 15 years without a jam or any other problem. I then won a Browning BPS at a banquet and have been using it for about 12 years. I liked the 870 better and plan to go back. I just thought I should give the BPS a fair chance.
I was wondering about the Nova, but from the sound ot it, I think I'll stick with the 870. It was perfection in the goose blind.
My gun of choice now is an 11-87 too. I have never had a problem with it in ten years until last fall when we had 1000 of snow geese with 15 yards and it wouldn't cyle a new shell. Man, that was so lame!
For reliability the 870 is hard to beat. A lot of guys might give a nod to the model-12 and that's a tough, both are great guns. Perhaps we'll have to let time tell, the mod 12 is still as much sought after today as when it came. I guess the same could be said for the 870 as well...
Best auto of all time is the A-5, hands down. I'm looking to buy an SBE so I'll have to wait to tell. You look at the browning and it was a flawless performer for a hundred years. Once the benelli does that I'll tip my hat, but for now A-5 is still number one.
Doug, I have one of the BGH 3.5's when they were still in the testing period for them and they are junk. They might be good guns nowadays but they were junk when they first came out.
Matt, I have the 3" model the second year they came out. It worked flawless this last fall. I have heard that the older model 3 1/2" had some major problems. The BGH 10 had one flaw and it was the incompentent owner. I didn't take the rings out and clean the carbon from behind them, so the gun wouldn't cycle. I got that one figured out and haven't had a problem with it since.
Robert, what did you turn too when the old 11-87 failed you? Say it, yes a BGH! Just kidding, every gun has those days. Did you ever figure out what happened with that? Doug
Yes, I admit that I had to fall back on that BGH thing. It did feel nice but I didn't like the shell feeder. It would cut into your thumb when you loaded the magazine with that nice sharp "v" shaped cut-out. I don't know what happened to the 11-87 that day. It has worked fine ever since. Just cursed I guess. That's the closest I had ever been to that many birds in my life, until the next morning, when we scored 16 birds on 4 shells (somebody's Nova jammed....again) I know that a 2 sided shotgun case in my future so I can fly with my Wingmaster too and keep those icky Browing germs off of my hands. However, I do own a very nice Belgian made stainless High-Power 9mm. I like that particular Browning quite well, but my shotguns will always be Remingtons, because they are cool and have more knockdown than Hustad's Daisy Red Ryder, which, I hear, patterns quite well.
The Remington 870 pump is an awesome gun, and absolute indelible part of waterfowl hunting. Every youngster should have the opportunity to learn from one, but, my Remington 11-87 is the most forgiving gun I have ever shot. I have never had a jam and there is nothing like squeezing three fast ones :grin:.
I like doubles and have shot nothing else for about 25 years, ever since I found out I was left eye dominant even though I am strictly right handed in everything else.
My first was a Ruger Red Label in 20 gauge for pheasant hunting when living in Dickinson. Then to a Ruger 12 when I moved back to waterfowl country in 1987. I have a Citori that shoots up to 3 1/2 but went back to the Ruger because I shoot it so well and I realized that you don't need more than 3"
With most of our hunting I can only think of a few times I thought I needed a third shot so I am perfectly content to shoot doubles. In fact last year I scored a triple on giant honkers with my double. I let the first one land, got two coming in and was able to reload in time to get the first one as he was flying away. It was the perfect situation that comes along once in a while, but it sure was fun.
The doubles don't jam, are easy to check if loaded, and you have the choice of two chokes. Some will disagree of course, but it's the gun for me.
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