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Our military can defeat any power on earth except for our congress and possibly our soon to be president. Defeat from within, just like Kruschev promised in the early 1960's. He said "We will not fire a shot. You will fall like a ripe plumb into our hands". I remember his speech. I don't need to check the net or snoops. I guess that's where life experience comes in, and where those who don't have it will repeat history.

Well now we know what one of the things is that the democrats will cut to pay for their huge welfare programs. The world is getting more dangerous each day, and what does Frank want to cut? The military of course. "We don't need fancy weapons". I guess that would be something that would take out an incoming nuke. I guess I forgot that the world will love us after Obama is president.

NEW BEDFORD - After the November election, Democrats will push for a second economic stimulus package that includes money for the states' stalled infrastructure projects, along with help paying for healthcare expenses, food stamps and extended unemployment benefits, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank said Thursday.

In a meeting with the editorial board of The Standard-Times, Rep. Frank, D-Mass., also called for a 25 percent cut in military spending, saying the Pentagon has to start choosing from its many weapons programs, and that upper-income taxpayers are going to see an increase in what they are asked to pay.

The military cuts also mean getting out of Iraq sooner, he said.

"The people of Iraq want us out, and we want to stay over their objection," he said. "It's extraordinary." The Maliki government in Iraq "can't sell (the withdrawal deal with the U.S.) because it sounds like we're going to stay too long."

"I was teasing (U.S. Rep.) Jack Murtha (a key supporter of military budgets) and I said to him, 'For the first time, somebody else has got a bill that's almost as big as yours.' We don't need all these fancy new weapons. I think there needs to be additional review."

Rep. Frank called on President Bush to appoint a senior official to guide the economic stimulus packages through the transition to the Barack Obama or John McCain administration when it takes office in January.

And he said that if the Democrats can't find an adequate agreement on a stimulus package in the lame-duck Congress, they would rather wait until the new Congress takes over - likely with many more Democrats, if polling results bear fruit in the November voting.

The new package, he said, will be aimed at easing fears about lending and investing. "The psychological problem is even worse than the real problem," he said.

"There is money to lend and projects worth borrowing money to do. But people are afraid to lend. That's what we're trying to unfreeze."

States have many infrastructure projects - bridges, highways, etc. - that have been shut down because of a cash-flow problems, he said. So it is not the case that a stimulus will take months or years to wait for design and approval, since projects are already in progress or ready to go.

Also, he said, "we'll increase the federal share of medical care so states won't have to lay off people." Unemployment insurance benefits won't increase, he said, but the period of collecting them will, and eligibility requirements might be relaxed.

And, ultimately, there will be tax increases on the upper brackets. "We'll have to raise taxes ultimately. Not now, but eventually," he said.
 

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Our military can defeat any power on earth except for our congress and possibly our soon to be president. Defeat from within, just like Kruschev promised in the early 1960's. He said "We will not fire a shot. You will fall like a ripe plumb into our hands". I remember his speech. I don't need to check the net or snoops. I guess that's where life experience comes in, and where those who don't have it will repeat history.

If you remember that then you should remember that it didn't happen... a quote from then that wasn't true certainly doesn't hold water today...
 

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You have to be kidding.

Just because he said it in the 60's it doesn't mean the quote expired in 1970.

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If you didn't understand that quote, it stands to reason you are an Obama supporter.
 

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I understand the quote just fine.... doesn't apply.... I like how some of the righties on this site resort to mean jabs to cover up for their lack of intelligence. Maybe you leave and let the smarter folks on here argue your point of view justanotherdog :lol:
 

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Kruschev meant it would happen with 30, 40, or 50 years. He went on to explain that we would become to corrupt and move left becoming just like them before 100 years.
 

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Maybe you leave and let the smarter folks on here argue your point of view justanotherdog
Another section directly out of the leftist playbook, if you can't handle the message, attack the messenger. :wink:
 

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man you guys really have the blinders on if you think that the few liberals that dare post on "your forum" are dishing the majority of the dirt around here. maybe you are too set in your ways to even care... maybe if I put a :wink: behind my quote I can get away with stuff like Bobm does... a moderator by the way but none of you guys had anything to say about that.
Typical right-wing hypocracy....

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Anyone have a bonehead brother? yep, if you have a brother he does
 

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Plainsman, it happened I remember that Chrushchev's speach! We studied it in schools (not by choice). Chrushchev meant not military victory. He was truly for a peaceful c-existence. He meant economical and ideological victory. As we all know, it happened without a nuclear war and it went out that the Communism collapsed. The Soviet Union could not compete economically and ideologically. Bush undermined influence of our country tremendously. This is Obama's job to fix it up. I am sure our military will be most efficient political tool in the world, technically and ideologically. By the end of WWII, in the former Soveit Union, Russian people saw American stregth not in the military might, but in the fact that German sodliers were anxious to surrender rather to Americans and British, then to Soviets. This was the kind of power, which we lost under Bush administration.
 
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