[Chuck Smith]

Keep things in mind when this keeps getting blown out of context and lies are being spread.

Abortion law in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Right now after this ruling came out.... 11 states out of 50 make abortion ILLEGAL.

1 state allows abortion up to 6 weeks legal after that illegal.
1 state allows up to 15 weeks (3.75 months) to be legal after that illegal
1 state allows up to 20 weeks (5 months) to be legal after that illegal.
THE REST 36 states are 22 weeks or more (5.5 months) to be legal after is illegal.

So a woman can know she is pregnant for 5 months or more in 37 states before she decides to have an abortion.

Also people are talking about ectopic pregnancies... ALL 50 states will protect the mother on this... ALL OF THEM have things protecting the mother. So dont fall for their lies.

But what this ruling does will make it become a STATE ISSUE. Which means this fall in many states I am sure you will see legislation being voted on. Especially the 13 with less than 15 weeks.

But honestly look at what is currently the law.... 5 months!!!! Half the pregnancy for people to decide and do testing and whatever. I wonder if many understand this. BTW... 7 states have NO LIMIT on gestation. Plus you see in CA and other places where ANTIFA is rioting and what not... NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!

I dont care what side you are on this topic but just be informed. Yes a couple states had "clauses" that were triggered ASAP. But others didn't. Those states that had the clauses triggered will have some big elections stuff coming up this fall... be it for State Official Elections (Governor, House, Senate), some purposed "amendments" to state constitutions, some laws, and what not.

 

[Chuck Smith]

Compagno shuts down Democrats' 'hand-wringing' over abortion ruling: 'They're missing the entire point' (msn.com)

This is 100% correct.

Maybe now vote local and have people of the same "ideology" as yourself be in office. NOT HAVING THE FEDS RULE. IE: States rights.

 

[Chuck Smith]

So still reading online about people going crazy over this decision. Many are saying to impeach the Supreme Court because they dont want the "FEDS" to have control over abortion rights....THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS RULING DID. It took the control out of the hands of the federal government.

It makes it available for States to amend their state constitutions to make abortion LEGAL or to outline with laws certain things....ie: First Trimester, second or even third is OK to abort. Or other things.

It is funny how people have no clue what the actual ruling did. Now it did "trigger" some clauses which most are getting fought in court ASAP. But those can be overturned come NOV or sooner if the States decide too.

It just shows you how Civics has been lost on many people. INCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS.

 

[Plainsman]

I have heard the feds may try get around state law by opening abortion clinics on reservations.

Edit: My post on this topic from another site.

Liberals confuse me they will kill a child at full term, but oppose the death penalty for a murderer, release violent fellons, and protest hunting. They practically worship wolves even though they kill anything they can yet hate us for shooting one deer. Their whole life is a contradiction. They also are not tolerant once they have the upper hand. A group of them would liked to have strangled me at lunch one day when I said "it's a hippocratic oath not a hypocritic oath, and none of you are doctors.

 

[Chuck Smith]

Plainsman,

I have read that too. But then that would end up going to each individual nation or "tribe" to see if they would allow it or not. I am sure some would and some wouldn't.

But like I keep mentioned they are screaming "KEEP THE FEDS OUT OF IT".... this is exactly what this ruling did.. kept the federal gov out of it.

 

[Plainsman]

Your right Chuck each tribe would make a decision, but I'll bet there would be a big big carrot attached.

 

[Chuck Smith]

So i have been reading on Social Media about how many are doing the "in your face GOP" or "take that Supreme court" and what not about the vote that just happened in Kansas. Which makes it legal to get an abortion in the state.

What they all are failing to understand is that is EXACTLY what the over turning of Roe vs Wade did. IT GAVE THE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE and not the Government. It shows you how Civics has died with people and how they would rather have an Us vs Them type mentality.

 

[Chuck Smith]

Graham and the Senate Republicans just gave the midterms to the Dem's.

Graham and the like just took away the argument of States Rights. WHICH I AGREE WITH IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE STATES TO DECIDE and STATE VOTERS... not the Feds.

 

[Plainsman]

I was thinking the same thing. Graham has to go. I wonder how many million he gets for this, and if he thinks he can spend it in hell.

 

[Chuck Smith]

Here is what is sad and crazy and HYPOCRITICAL on this whole thing. The Dodd decision actually was correct. Let it get to the state level and voters. BUT the idiots in DC are just power hungry... all sides.

1. Rep. said it was about State RIghts (which is TRUE)... but then Graham and the others want this "15 week" thing made into law. IDIOTS and Hypocrites.

2. Dems now are screaming Republicans are for Big Government interfering and what not. WELL they want to "codify" Roe... isn't that Big Gov interfering? Stepping on states rights and letting voters decide?

Like I stated above the idiots in DC want the power is the whole thing.

Again I also think this election cycle play book by Dem's is abortion. It is all I am seeing on TV and online/social media. Which is smart. But in states where Abortion is already protected it makes no sense and is playing on voters ignorance.

 

[Plainsman]

The liberals abort their children and we keep ours. Like the dinosaurs they will disappear, just not fast enough. When they have destroyed America, killed 100s of millions in wars as communism does, and disappeared into a dark history then our decendants can rebuild. Hard times make strong people and good times ( like under Trump) makes weak people. Rise and fall of nations ---- wash rinse repeat.

 

[Chuck Smith]

 

[Chuck Smith]

So watching Twitter and other social media the past few days and watching liberals go crazy over some stuff.

A few states have over turned Abortion Bans because it violated state constitutions, violated womens privacy rights that were set up in state laws, etc. These liberals are all saying.... TAKE THAT SUPREME COURT... or Take that Kavanaugh and other justices. What they dont understand is that without overturning the R v W and the decision that they made to push it back to the states. Those decisions wouldn't have happened. It was the exact intent of their decision and ruling. SO THE STATES CAN MAKE THE RULES NOT THE FEDS.

I mean if you agree or disagree with Abortion it puts it back into your hands at the state level to see the change you want. Not the national level where someone 1000 miles away has a voice on what happens in your backyard.

 

[speckline]

The feds should provide a reward system foe all liberals seeking abortions. Should take care of the disaster they have created fairly quickly...