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Mr Redlabel ???

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I see you liked my "commercial" at the Grand Forks meeting last night ??? I believe you were not listening very closely, or I was shaking like a rooster had just exploded at my feet while speaking :smile:

What I said was, I echoed all the speakers before me & did'nt want to waste alot of time, cause all I have said & believe in, is on the internet, at this site. The internet is now a powerful tool, to bring us together. The only other site for ND is sponsored by commercial interests, guide / outfitters & is CENSORED. This new site has expirenced - respected hunters, that come from all over the state & other states. I invited all, to go to this site & read what we / I think. These things have been discussed for along time. Sure there are problems - But there are also answers & solutions. This site is not just whining or complaining. But people who have ideas to make ND better.

Sorry ! you saw it as a commercial - also sorry, if you can't see thru, what that other site is about ??? I have no financial interest, or gain to be had from this site. I just see real people, who have similar intersts & ideals, about what would be best for the future of ND hunting. More can be presented here, than a 6 or 7 minute speech, to a crowd of hunters (who have trouble agreeing on much of anything - most of the time):)

I also did not feel or hear alot of whining or b#tching last night. I thought Mr Hildebrand, while a nice guy & a good administrator & truely interested in maintaining the outdoors in ND. I think he deserved to be blasted & told straight out - that is not his only job. To go with the political flow & only maintain things, as a temporary position, until he retires. We need strong leadership & new ideas & courage to try new things & the political expertise, to get them done.

How sad! were those that spoke in favor of the early opener ??? Most have no clue what the real problems, or concerns are in ND. I know one was a real piece of work, as a land owner. Constantly mad at the government (especially the USFWS) & I believe a abuser of their laws ??? & one of those, that had his land posted with the signs, that took his frustration out on hunters. With hope it would send a message to the powers that be, to change things, to the way he wanted them. He also missed all the points being made & tried to twist it into a landowner vs hunter problem. Also a city vs rural problem. Also a East vs West problem. Which is so far from the reality of those, that gave heart felt testimony at these meetings. At the last meeting in GF he said he had a friend in Mott that got him on land to hunt - So he had no proplems getting on land ??? ??? ??? Duh! but he forgot to include that last night. I hope most at these meetings were not influenced by the likes of someone like this. It's really sad & a negative detriment to a otherwise positive / productive meeting.

[ This Message was edited by: Fetch on 2002-03-15 13:05 ]
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I think you are right on track responding to Redlabel. If he's lining up access to 13,000 acres and getting the ranchers to limit access then he is part of our problem.

Did you read the article in the Forum's Sunday edition this week? It was an article concerning a possible hunting season for prairie chickens. What do you think some of the non-residents from MN would thnk if a bunch of ND guys went in and leased-up or purchased all the prime hunting areas? Probably would be a non-issue as the state of MN would more than likely restrict that hunt to residents only. At the very least maybe the Cannonball club should expand into the area and charge . . . say $225.00 per day for access fees.
Red label,

After re-reading your post on the 13,000 acres, I see that you did not say that you had tied that amount of land up. I do have to say however that every time you either buy land or ask one of your neighbors for an extended time period to hunt you are in fact limiting access as they will be more than likely to let only you hunt due to the land enhancement and stocking of pheasants.

As another poster said here, everytime you get land it may have been somebody elses place to hunt. I have lost some great areas to hunt over the years due to other hunters asking for exclusive permission. I had done my homework, stopped to see the landowners yearly and got to know them. A hunter came in and set himself up as the great guy that was going to enhance the area and stock birds. The farmer felt it was his obligation to let this new guy have the best areas and times to hunt.

Think about expansion in the future, you may be limiting access to the same areas by someone else.
I give up! I'm looking for land. Anybody have any honey holes they wouldn't mind me taking over? Wait a minute. You'll find it hard to convince me that once you buy some land, enhance it, and stock birds that the nearby land owners are not going to help protect the resource. I know you didn't say that word for word but you and I both know it will happen. I've also been hunting in ND 30-35 years and have seen the changes that have happened over that time period.

Just a suggestion, one that I've thought about recently, approach the landowners with the same idea. Help them to enhance their land for wildlife and allow you and the public to hunt with maybe a donation to the local town for instance. Ok, I know there are farmers that want to sell so there are options there as well.

Nothing personal, but I'll be honest, I have become more resentful in the past couple of years to anyone that is trying to change the hunting heritage in ND. Obviously things are changing but it doesn't mean every one has to like it or go along without their input.

[ This Message was edited by: Field Hunter on 2002-04-15 19:47 ]
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If you've been hunting as long as you say, it woould lead me to believe that "red label" is a very good scotch.
Much better than the black label!

I used to buy pen raised, butchered, and frozen pheasants from "forsgren pheasant farms" in Pelican Rapids MN. They related to me that they sell their live laying hens every year after they get their quota of eggs for the season. I think you can pick up the bred, fertile hens for about $6.00/each. They'll lay hatchable eggs with out the need for roosters around. At least you'll know how many they produce as you won't be putting out roosters.

I've thought about doing this with some of the farmers land that I've hunted on for years. The time may be right. Also thinking about putting up a small 20x20 shed in a farmers shelter belt (getting harder and harder to compete with the NRs for the available hotel rooms) complete with a gas grill. Nothing better than duck breasts marinated in soy sauce, garlic and olive oil on a hot grill.
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