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He is another American hero. When he started, everything was against him, such as age, time spent in Washington, his skin color and a powerful seasoned politician like Hillary Clinton as his rival; Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on. And yet, he is going to be a winner. I vote for him without reservations, because he is going to be one of the greatest American president in history. People recognized a great, a sincere and a trustworthy man in him. Because people like Obama, we can be proud of being Americans.
 

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Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on.
You admire a man that surrounds himself with idiots? Were I come from, a man that leads a pack of idiots is merely the king idiot.
 

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McCain is desperately trying to distance himself from from the exact idiots that the American public is fed up with...too bad McCain is not man enough too tell the truth and that is that he agrees with the Bush administration most of the time....

 

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they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another,
Now you call them blunders, at the time they were speaking from the heart

which Obama had to correct later on
something he does ever single minute, it's called "say anything to get elected"
 

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While we are on the subject of idiots.... what do you call a person who voted Bush in for a second term?
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sevendogs said:
He is another American hero. When he started, everything was against him, such as age, time spent in Washington, his skin color and a powerful seasoned politician like Hillary Clinton as his rival; Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on. And yet, he is going to be a winner. I vote for him without reservations, because he is going to be one of the greatest American president in history. People recognized a great, a sincere and a trustworthy man in him. Because people like Obama, we can be proud of being Americans.
You must hate america.

And HOW is Obama an American hero??!! Please tell me.
 

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secretly or not so secretly, NO-bama has disdain for many American values and even the Constitution.......you would have to be totally blind to what he stands for and what he will take away from a proud America, not to see it......he will traumatize and divide this country in no time.
 

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Other than jack his jaws, fill us in on what Obama has done to earn your admiration.

Talking don't count - actions count.

We are waiting.

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Seven dogs or others who are Pro-Obama....

I have one question for you......why are you voting for him? Please list reasons why? I want to know what you agree with him on Policies, etc.

When he started, everything was against him, such as age, time spent in Washington, his skin color and a powerful seasoned politician like Hillary Clinton as his rival; Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on. And yet, he is going to be a winner. I vote for him without reservations, because he is going to be one of the greatest American president in history. People recognized a great, a sincere and a trustworthy man in him. Because people like Obama, we can be proud of being Americans.
Not this stuff....but policies. Please try to convince me why he is the better canidate to lead our nation in this trying time. Again policies?

Because right now I am riding on the fence....but am leaning towards Mc Cain. I believe in his policies more. So please enlighten me.
 

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sevendogs said:
He is another American hero. When he started, everything was against him, such as age, time spent in Washington, his skin color and a powerful seasoned politician like Hillary Clinton as his rival; Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on. And yet, he is going to be a winner. I vote for him without reservations, because he is going to be one of the greatest American president in history. People recognized a great, a sincere and a trustworthy man in him. Because people like Obama, we can be proud of being Americans.
You must hate america.

And HOW is Obama an American hero??!! Please tell me.
Why would you say that sevendogs hates America after his post? Hate is a strong word in my book. Basically, if someone doesn't agree with the right, they hate America. Unreal.
 

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Why would you say that sevendogs hates America after his post? Hate is a strong word in my book. Basically, if someone doesn't agree with the right, they hate America. Unreal.
Does going to Iraq and asking the Prime Minister to stall the withdrawal of troops from Iraq in order to help your campaign sound like someone that puts themselves or America first?

He most definitely does not indicate any 'support' for our troops and gets really close to "hate" when you put yourself ahead of their lives when they are fighting for your right to campaign.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/Obama-Stalls-Troops
 

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I'll bite,

Who's there?
 

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McCain is desperately trying to distance himself from from the exact idiots that the American public is fed up with...too bad McCain is not man enough too tell the truth and that is that he agrees with the Bush administration most of the time....

There was a lot larger crowd of idiots, which helped to elect Bush and Cheney with a bunch of Republicans in the congress. They told us all the time that the economy was strong. Suddenly, we discovered it was not qite true... All peole with a political weight or famous name endorse candidates. Why Cheney and Bush did not even show up at the Republican convention? Why Bush does not endorse McCain and Palin? Perhaps, they are not idiots. They are people, which know what they had done and now, trying to escape accountability. Idiots are those, who supported them.
 

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Even his supporters were so stupid, especially among the black supporters, including his own wife; they spoke all kind of blunders, one after another, which Obama had to correct later on.
You admire a man that surrounds himself with idiots? Were I come from, a man that leads a pack of idiots is merely the king idiot.
He did not lead them, yet. Those are some volunteers showing up in every elections. He will be leading the country. Blunders and hoaxes occur all the time, because nobody is perfect, especially in crowds during elections.
 

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sven dogs the Democrats are responsible (Primairily) for the economic troubles the fannie may freddie mac situation was caused by them not the republicans. I dont like the republicans either but they are the lesser of two evils.
 

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I just received this from the GOA. Please read this should help you make up your mind if you like any shooting sport or would like to keep a gun in the house for protection.

Hi Everyone,
We have had a lot of email into GunsAmerica and especially into our MySpace about voting for Barack Obama for president.

Setting aside the socialist policy issues, and "spreading the money around" that you work for, everyone should be very clear about where Barack Obama stands on guns.

This was taken from http://www.gunbanobama.com/ which is an NRA-ILA project, and it is available in PDF form at: http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/2008Obamafactsht.pdf

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research."8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00219)

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00217)

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... on-se.html)

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/20 ... amas_c.php)

7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 60181.html)

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/ ... wards.html)

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog ... shoot.html)

14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urban ... nforcement.)

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_ ... ontrol.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

Paul (Shlomo) Helinski
GunsAmerica
Where America Buys and Sells Guns.
http://www.gunsamerica.com

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