No problem G-H-F-L in fact it seems we have to explain ourselves way too often. & I think the guides like it that way. (Spreading those rumors & false beliefs & LIES) in oreder to get the rural folks to side with them.
Most all of us are from small towns or rural ND.
I agree with Muzzy on how in many areas most residents are saying to heck with hunting - because of the fact, so many NR's are crowding into these areas with services. Then the few pay to hunt NR's get the better places to hunt. :eyeroll: That also makes residents & eventually Non resident Freelance hunters either quit coming, or crowd into the few public, or private places left to hunt. The pay to hunt people are getting the better opportunities to hunt game owned by everyone ??? Eventually only the ones that will, or do pay to hunt, will come. Making ND like so many other states. (& I still say for pheasants, these guys are really running nothing but hyped pheasant preserves- after they shoot all the free birds that are naturally provided, or pushed from the public areas into their leased lands) This is causing terrible problems for all. If the pheasants die off ??? Just think how bad things will be in these communities ??? Will they ever get freelance hunters back ??? (maybe) - but if there is little to hunt ??? But if it turns into a total released bird hunting expirence ??? (& I say it is partially that now) Don't expect Residents or NR Freelance hunters to ever be a part of that, cause it won't happen - there has always been pay to hunt preserves, near most of the bigger towns around ND (& many have gone broke too)- There ok for people who are too busy, or who want to work their dogs & no one has ever complained about them. But to see so much of ND & so much land becoming like this, is terrible - just to take advantage of rich, or wealthier traveling shooters. (cause this is not real hunting - & many NR's will catch on & stay in their own states & do this) Then all this will be such a great loss to Freelance hunters & those communities. (seems immoral & absurd to most of us) :******: Definitely not a secure economic development idea to me. :roll: More of a desperate scheme that way too many are falling for. Or at least using, to take away or destroy, a life long Passion & Recreation to so many. (But the sad part is maybe their are enough idiots - from out of state - to keep this going ??)
But does that make it right ??? & should we stand back & watch it happen ???
& remember how hyped the SOB hunting was - as far as the need to shoot as many birds as possible ??? I can assure you the pay to hunt people are not helping this be accomplished. All that has occured as far as SOB hunters coming here- has done (in the fall) is show the NR how many ducks we have - & remember these guys don't want to pay $200 to $300 a day to hunt ducks - (or Geese for that matter.) they also want to freelance & this has really crowded to many areas - that have to few services & for to few weeks.
Things like Candos Duck Days are great ideas - if they help promote access from private landowners in their areas - This is how it is up in Canada - the City of Wynard gives out hunter packets at Motels. They give area plots maps . So when your out scouting, you can easliy find who owns the land, to get permission. Plus lots of other info to help hunters & all Hunters are welcome - this is real economic development, designed to help their communities become real destinations for hunters. (No land can be leased for hunting up there.) Sure there are guides for those who need them, but they certainly donot have an unfair advantage, or have they ruined the hunting opportunities for all. --- (OUR TOURSIM DEPT. & GOVENOR & Legislature would be wise, to study how smart those people are up there.)
http://www.quill-lakes.com/hunt.htm
Another problem no-one wants to take into consideration is, that most of these Pay to hunt people only do it once, to learn the laws & customs & how things work in a state, or area. Then they come back & try to freelance (& they tell their friends, or bring new people & so on & so on.) Until it is so crowed & such a mess, like we are expirencing now , here in ND.
Some of us are hardcore - Been there done that (ALOT) hunters. The guides & outfitters don't like us telling the truth, or helping the Legislature & other towns & landowners & bureaucrats, see what can be done, to help the biggest numbers of people. That is very sad - that people in the know & can make a difference, are not the movers & shakers, that can help improve ND, as a destination of QUALITY Hunting expirences, for a long time to come.
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