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So with the shooting that just happened in TX and Buffalo we will be hearing all summer pre-election about gun control.
Even though as facts are coming out about these two shootings is just crazy.
But here are some things to think about and some possible solutions.
1. We sent $40B to Ukraine to ARM THEMSELVES. That money could have went to schools for updated safety features. These features contrary to "RADICAL" left would make schools "prisons" at all. BTW... There is about 100K public schools in the USA... that $40B would have been about $400K to each of these schools to upgrade things I will talk about. And these things are not some SCFI state of the art. Think of safe home offered by Alexa.
- Single point entry when students are present. You have them for apartment buildings, office complex's, etc. You know you do in one door then have to get BUZZED into the building to get into another door. Put a camera there. Not that hard or overly expensive to do.
- Alarms on any doors that are locked and get opened from the inside. I have two "alarms" on my office doors that cost me $20 and they give an BUZZZ so I know if people come into those doors. My office is in the back and I can always see if people come in one of the doors. SIMPLE... Have this "alarm" go to the office of the school. Where a secretary or anyone can see if a door is opened. With WIFI not that expensive or hard to do.
- Shatter/bullet proof glass at entrances and doors (think sandy hook guy shot out plain double pane glass). This is proven to help and slow people it all down so others can get out the other doors. Again... Alarm type system on it when glass breaks that alerts a central point. THis would be the most expensive.
- LOCK THE DOORS so that nobody from the outside can get in. yeah... that is how this idiot got into the building...an unlocked back door.
So there is simple solutions to help prevent things like this from happening. THAT IS IF THE SCHOOL FOLLOWS THRU.
Now onto the "gun" control. Topic. Since this is a hunting site most of us are very pro 2A.
You hear liberals scream... COMMON SENSE laws. Well we have a ton of laws on the books and many do conflict with each other. You know like mental health records and sharing of juvenal records and what not. The backlogs of agents on NICS checks for firearms and what not. So there are laws on the books that actually hurt background checks. But that is something they dont want to talk about. OR the laws that help keep firearms out of felons hands but courts DROP those charges or "gun" charges ASAP or plea stuff down. Instead of hammering people to the fullest extent of the law. I know all of this costs MONEY. But all we hear about is DEFUND POLICE.... FBI IS HORRIBLE... ETC. So yeah you have that problem as well.
But in MN to purchase an AR or Handgun you need to have something called a purchase permit. IT IS FREE OF CHARGE. All you do is go to your local Chief of police or city hall and fill out the permit. They have 7 days to either accept or deny the permit. What this does or supposed to do is go thru a little more "thorough" background check. The permit is good for 1 year. You take this permit up to any store and show it to them and get your gun that same day. SIMPLE. Also if you have a Carry and Conceal permit... it acts just like this Purchase permit. Again this is FREE OF CHARGE. It is for purchasing an AR or a Handgun.
This is honestly something I can get behind. It really isn't that big of an inconvenience unless you forget that it expired. Which I have done... but then the store just holds the gun for me with a little "down payment" and I am back 7 days later to pick it up.
So anyone else care for discussion? Also can always be talking points when you discuss with others outside of this forum.
Here is an EDIT: I forgot to add in some literature about the permit I was talking about.
Even though as facts are coming out about these two shootings is just crazy.
- The response of the TX PD
- The shooter in Buf chose the area because of "gun laws" on books
- School safety and protocols that were ignored or didn't happen...
- etc.
But here are some things to think about and some possible solutions.
1. We sent $40B to Ukraine to ARM THEMSELVES. That money could have went to schools for updated safety features. These features contrary to "RADICAL" left would make schools "prisons" at all. BTW... There is about 100K public schools in the USA... that $40B would have been about $400K to each of these schools to upgrade things I will talk about. And these things are not some SCFI state of the art. Think of safe home offered by Alexa.
- Single point entry when students are present. You have them for apartment buildings, office complex's, etc. You know you do in one door then have to get BUZZED into the building to get into another door. Put a camera there. Not that hard or overly expensive to do.
- Alarms on any doors that are locked and get opened from the inside. I have two "alarms" on my office doors that cost me $20 and they give an BUZZZ so I know if people come into those doors. My office is in the back and I can always see if people come in one of the doors. SIMPLE... Have this "alarm" go to the office of the school. Where a secretary or anyone can see if a door is opened. With WIFI not that expensive or hard to do.
- Shatter/bullet proof glass at entrances and doors (think sandy hook guy shot out plain double pane glass). This is proven to help and slow people it all down so others can get out the other doors. Again... Alarm type system on it when glass breaks that alerts a central point. THis would be the most expensive.
- LOCK THE DOORS so that nobody from the outside can get in. yeah... that is how this idiot got into the building...an unlocked back door.
So there is simple solutions to help prevent things like this from happening. THAT IS IF THE SCHOOL FOLLOWS THRU.
Now onto the "gun" control. Topic. Since this is a hunting site most of us are very pro 2A.
You hear liberals scream... COMMON SENSE laws. Well we have a ton of laws on the books and many do conflict with each other. You know like mental health records and sharing of juvenal records and what not. The backlogs of agents on NICS checks for firearms and what not. So there are laws on the books that actually hurt background checks. But that is something they dont want to talk about. OR the laws that help keep firearms out of felons hands but courts DROP those charges or "gun" charges ASAP or plea stuff down. Instead of hammering people to the fullest extent of the law. I know all of this costs MONEY. But all we hear about is DEFUND POLICE.... FBI IS HORRIBLE... ETC. So yeah you have that problem as well.
But in MN to purchase an AR or Handgun you need to have something called a purchase permit. IT IS FREE OF CHARGE. All you do is go to your local Chief of police or city hall and fill out the permit. They have 7 days to either accept or deny the permit. What this does or supposed to do is go thru a little more "thorough" background check. The permit is good for 1 year. You take this permit up to any store and show it to them and get your gun that same day. SIMPLE. Also if you have a Carry and Conceal permit... it acts just like this Purchase permit. Again this is FREE OF CHARGE. It is for purchasing an AR or a Handgun.
This is honestly something I can get behind. It really isn't that big of an inconvenience unless you forget that it expired. Which I have done... but then the store just holds the gun for me with a little "down payment" and I am back 7 days later to pick it up.
So anyone else care for discussion? Also can always be talking points when you discuss with others outside of this forum.
Here is an EDIT: I forgot to add in some literature about the permit I was talking about.
THE PERMIT TO PURCHASE (OR TRANSFEREE PERMIT)
The Transferee Permit system in Minnesota is setup to allow immediate transfer of a Pistol or SAMSAW.
Any MN resident may apply at their local CLEO office for a Transferee Permit – more commonly known as a MN Permit to Purchase – at no cost. The CLEO has 7 days to approve/deny the permit under MN Statute 624.7131. This statute also defines the appeals process for those who feel they have been denied unfairly.
Transferee Permits are good for one year from date of issue unless revoked by the CLEO. The renewal process is identical to the initial application process.
If a buyer/recipient of a firearm transfer has a Transferee Permit at the time of sale, then the reporting process described above and associated waiting periods are removed. In this case, the transfer of the firearm can be completed immediately if all federal rules for the transfer have been satisfied.
A MN Permit to Carry is also valid as a Transferee Permit, so Permit to Carry holders do not need to obtain a second permit.
Many private sellers also use the valid Transferee Permit as an indication that the recipient is not a prohibited person who would be ineligible to receive the firearm.
The most up to date list of firearms defined in MN as a SAMSAW can be found at this link.