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What does everyone think about the NFL to get ride of the PAT?

I think it would be a dumb move and i don't mind the PAT. There is maybe 1 PAT a year that is missed or blocked. So i understand it is a gimme. Blair Walsh the MN Vikings Kicker wrote a good article and I some what agree with him. Move it back so it is a 30 yarder or so. I mean right now it is a 20 yarder.... 10 yards to the uprights....3 yards from goal line....and 7 yards to the holder.

Here is what Walsh wrote.

Exclusive: Vikings kicker on why PATs must stay, and how to improve them

My name is Blair Walsh, and I'm the kicker for the Minnesota Vikings.

Recently there has been a lot of talk about changing the point after touchdown, or more commonly phrased "PAT." I understand Mr. Goodell's desire to improve the game by changing the PAT; however, eliminating the "kicking" aspect of the PAT would change the game in a negative manner and make kickers' jobs less relevant, which, obviously, I am vehemently against.

I think the initially mentioned proposal of changing the PAT to a pass/run option for different variations of points would be a mistake. It would change the positive/long-standing scoring traditions of the game and would result in odd scores to games.

However, I am not against moving the PAT back and making the kick longer. I think that instead of the 42-yard attempt that is being talked about, the PAT should be a 38-yard attempt. Kickers, for the most part, are accurate inside of 40; however, there is enough of a track record of misses from the 30- to 39-yard range to make a 38-yard PAT somewhat exciting. Add in late-season weather, wind conditions and less room for error due to the increased distance the ball has to stay straight, and I think you have a viable solution without dramatically changing the most popular sport in America.

A 20-yard extra point can be hit extremely poorly and still be kicked through the uprights. On the contrary, a 38-yard PAT would have to be hit solidly for it to go through and would require much more accuracy from the place kicker. In turn, this makes the PAT more exciting, while keeping myself and the 31 other kickers involved in the game. It would challenge us to adapt our mindset and physical approach to the PAT.

Although I am admittedly biased, I believe that kickers do play a unique yet integral role in the game. A team that does its research and develops or signs a strong, accurate and confident kicker will be rewarded in clutch situations. Not to mention, that team will have a distinct advantage on the field-position battle on kickoffs. Eliminating returns with high and deep kicks is without a doubt an asset to a team's defense.

Being a kicker can be full of glory and triumph, or full of downright agony. As kickers, we sometimes only get one attempt in a game, and if we miss that attempt, we are not guaranteed to get a chance to redeem ourselves. A longer PAT would challenge kickers to adapt and make the scoring in a game much more interesting.

Blair Walsh has kicked for the Vikings since 2012 and was a Pro Bowler in his first season in the NFL.
 

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I would rather see it moved back like his article stated versus eliminating the PAT all together, it still should be part of the game......Go Vikes !!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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here is another twist to think about when moving it back..... If it is a 42 yarder....what happens when there is a false start? that makes it a 47 yarder!! Or a holding.... 52 yarder!! Now you are talking more misses. Even at what the article states with 38 yards.... Now a 42 or 48 yarder!! There are many penalties that happen still on the PAT. You see holds, false starts, etc. So those distances might be too long.

Then here is another complication..... Where do you put the ball to start the PAT?? Does it stay the same distance for when you go for 2??? Because gaining 3 yards can be easier than gaining 10 yards!!

this just opens up another whole package of issues!!!

It is just good things to discuss before the draft and since Free Agency isn't going crazy yet. LOL
 

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Chuck is right.....Wouldn't moving it back basically eliminate the 2 point.It's tough enough to get the 2 point from 3 yards out,much less from 32 yds. out.

Of course Walsh is not in favor.....it's his job.

I still like the proposal that would eliminate the 1 point kick.Speeds up the game.Just make the TD worth 7 points.If you want to try for a 2 point ,it would be the same as now.....from the 3 yd. line.If you don't make it.....you get only 6 instead of 7.
 
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