I stopped going to outfitter buddy a long, long time ago, and popped over to see what you were referring to. It's a shame, not only b/c they hunted with him but because they promote him. The outfitters record speaks for itself, enough said.
Can you imagine what ND would do without Nodak Outdoors??? Like this site or not Chris has the balls to step up against making a buck to do what he feels is right. My hats off to the hard work put into this.
Ya dosch I don't know whats going on with Fishingbuddy. A fellow with the handle of Fireball was looking for a new site and I told him to go to nodakoutdoors where they still respect the 1st amendment. I had started a thread that had about a dozen responses and they cut the entire thing. I didn't think it was disrespectful or anything. I'll print it here and you let me know if you think it's out of line.
Read between the lines
It's easy to spot the real McCoy, they are passionate in their beliefs. The moderate on the other hand are a little scary. Now, some of these people are sincere, but some intentionally want to lead us down the rosy path. Many go so far as to proclaim themselves as "open minded", but within the same editorializing proclaim their disrespect for the passionate. The moderate is scary because we do not know what they stand for. They try to calm the passionate, but what are they really saying? Are they saying, be calm, let the poison work? I thought that all the hours of psychology I took in college was a waste, but now I think perhaps not. Many of the self proclaimed "open minded" I think are stalling us while the others work at defeating those who would preserve our hunting heritage. It may not be a planned strategy, but what would work better than having someone gain the respect of the unsuspecting, and perhaps even convincing some that compromise is the only answer? We compromised in the past, the guides and outfitters did not. They will be back to negotiate again and we will be expected by the "open minded" to compromise again. If that is to continue then hunting like radiation will have a half life. Lose half our hunting heritage today, half of the remaining in the next legislative session, half of that remaining in the next legislative session and so on. Perhaps some think this is holding out, but I think it really means we will lose hunting for all but the wealthy very quickly. So for the moderates out there, open your eyes to reality or take up shuffle board. Hunting for the average Joe is in a death struggle, and the complacent don't even know they are in a fight.
Nice post ~ PLIANSMAN~ Anyone that hunts with or guides for Sheldon, I consider a poacher. He has NO ethics and NO morals when it comes down to it. As a matter of fact, this weekend at the Greenskins we talk to the GW that is in his area and he has citied him enough times to know that everytime he checks his guides to bring them citation book with in the field. I grew up hunting ALL the land he now leases and I have been battling him since I was 6 years, now at 26 (as of today)still battling him from taking over more of the state.
I have no resoect for the man and his family!
Sorry it's a VERY soar spot in my family! HE leases the field I shot my first goose in, the field that I shot my first mountable goose and the slew that I shot my first Buffleohead in. He took all my memories as a kid!!!
Not worried about any shooting incidents. We identify our animals BEFORE we pull the trigger.
And trust me, Mrs. Cootkiller is always smiling.
You can talk to us at the cove saturday, hopefully with her bull moose. Introduce yourself and I will buy you a beer, AMBER BOCK anyone.
Never ever leave your wingman. (Your 26, you better know where that is from, if you don't, get a life)
I feel for you and what has happened. However, if this land is where you hunted as a kid, how come the landowners that obviously were your friends before now turn there backs on you. Hopefully not just for the power of money. If it is that hard to get on land down there, come up and scout and walk for moose with me and my wife and I will personally take you hunting on our stuff. Prime, Grade A duck ad goose land.
Other wise maybe you could quit whining, meet some new landowners, and alleviate the problem yourself instead of blaming all your problems on someone else who is trying to make a living.
I know sheldon made mistakes in the past but from what I have heard, from official(public) records, and from other guides, he hasn't been cited for MANY years now.
If he truly has been cited that many times there is a huge problem with a system that continues to license him. You would think even the g/o would want that bap apple weeded out. :evil: :evil: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
~CK~ I wasn't whinning at all!!!You got me all wrong! I was mearly staiting facts that have hapened in my life! I guess I'm sorry for not working for an Outfitter, like KB! I haven't sold out! As for the sheldonism, you'd know what I was talking about if you had spent sometime in my area. Where my family established them sleves for 26 years. Allas from what I know you have your areas in DL that are in the prime area, and yet you keep running it in peoples faces.
To tell you the truth CK. I don't hunt that area! My father still does, but not anywhere we used to hunt before Sheldon was a guide! Those Pic's you see me on this site are all over ND. I do go out, and meet new farmers. Hence the different pic's ( I know you have seen). But unlike you I can't hunt the land I grew up hunting on. WHY? Because Sheldon has it all leased. Now I ask you can you hunt the land you grew up on?
It would be damn nice to set up decoys out there agian! That's my story!Not complaining, just wishing I could relive those memories that I grew up with.
cootkiller quit being such a jerk yapping about "my land" ...blah blah blah....i'm guessing your what...26-30 years old.
College must have paid killer to afford so much land. You need to quit rubbing crap in peoples faces and realize you are very fortunate to be able to farm, giving you some good places to hunt. If you were not grandfatherd into it, it's virtually impossible. With the price of land per acre and equipement. Finding a bank to loan you the funds would be harder than shooting a 6 legged goose.
So quit yapping about the prideland and telling people if they help you, you may help them. I was always brought up to be nice to people and help them out if they need it...don't expect anything in return...thats NOT why you help people. But sadly thats where it's going. If you don't bend over backwards for some people they don't feel they owe you anything. Since when did hunting become a "i owe you something" type of sport. I hate the way things are turning. Gladly we still have some individuals around that help out around my grandparents old farm (abandoned now) by cutting the grass on the county road and things like that. They never ask for anything in return...they think my grandparents freindship over the years was enough. It's these kind of people that make ND what it is.
Hey Coot when you get to be my age stuff like Viagra will start lookin a lot better to you. I'm not a real tecknology buff but when I need it I wouldn't be shy about getting some! Haven't got there yet but I'm am smart enough to never say never. Don't worry about the raggin everybodies giving you, have fun on your hunt. I wish I could go moose hunting sounds like a heck of a lot of fun. How the hell does a moose hide in ND anyway???
Well I believe old Hoosier Jim has passed on to better places or maybe for him worse places. I have some good memories of the FI club and the Duck Blind. I still have #69 out of 100 Doc Hull FI till I die duck calls. Lost my hat chasing someone down with my boat in the Saltjacket Slough just off the Tanana River here in AK. Once it hit the glacial water it sank immediately. FI till I die!! :beer:
Yeah poor moose, I've ran into a lot of them hunting bear in New Hampshire and elk in Wyoming they aren't real smart. I would like to hunt them just once in New Hampshire with my longbow though. What does FI mean?
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