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So I have bit my tongue enough on this one.

Since the WH and the press secretary want to keep spouting the lies about how it is Republicans wanting to defund the police because they wont vote "yes" on the 6T "infrastructure" bill.

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status ... 4082323457

Above is a little video showing you the truth.

Also the reason why the "no" vote is on the 6T dollar "infrastructure" bill is happening isn't the portion about the police funding. It is the 50% of the bill that goes towards "GREEN NEW DEAL". Maybe if they would bring up a bill and not tack on crap for sole funding of the police you will get a true picture.

But again... some of us on here called it.... BLAME TRUMP and BLAME REPUBLICANS is what we will hear for 4 years. :poke:

If any of the old posters are still lurking... can you defend this or not???? Which party is "lying" all the time? Now I will say this... BOTH PARTIES LIE... but I remember post after post saying Trump is a liar and what not. I then showed how he wasn't lying it was the media "twisting" things. So please show me how you can defend this out right LIES!!! When it is coming to the "defund" the police... or COVID... and what not now???

Also I know that our past posters were never for defunding the police. They said some reform is needed which most of us agreed as well. But please try and defend the Dem's who are outright lying now? Hypocrisy is running very deep in the media and with Dem's right now. :beer:
 

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It's coming... best be ready when the SHTF
 

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Just some things to think about..... BTW... Chicago every 4th of July is horrible for shootings and stuff.

So what changed with a year??? NOTHING.... Chicago still has rampant gun violence.
 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

This article is a good read.

Police hit Biden crime plan as 'foolish' and 'knee-jerk' action

President Joe Biden's hope of winning over police by pushing for more funding, with strings attached, was slammed Monday as a Band-aid that ignores the bigger issue of politicians attacking law enforcement.

As Biden met with some big city political and police leaders, but apparently no national law enforcement executives, two groups called for a larger discussion on city crime beyond police hiring and gun violence.

"Money isn't the problem with police recruitment and retention. Cops are leaving because they have been disrespected and disempowered," said Jason Johnson, president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund.

"If he believes that hiring and retaining more cops is necessary - and it is - he should start standing up for the men and women of law enforcement and stop perpetuating lies about this noble profession," he added.

Jonathan Thompson, executive director and CEO of the National Sheriffs' Association, said, "We implore the president to call for an end to the political demagoguery of both parties that is doing more harm than good. No responsible leader has called for the defunding of police, and now is the time to admit local law enforcement needs legitimate help. Political promises and complex, punitive legislative remedies that hurt law enforcement rather than help won't reduce crime."

In a statement to Secrets, he added, "Retirements and departures in the profession are at record levels, and not surprisingly crime has risen in record numbers. We don't need legislation that essentially nationalizes law enforcement. By hiding behind 'strings attached' funding and burdening communities with outrageous financial settlements that enrich trial lawyers we are at risk of completely undermining the rule of law."

Some law enforcement officials expressed surprise Biden did not have national police leaders at his White House meeting.

Biden said there is "no one-size-fits-all approach" and continued to push for hiring more police and eliminating illegal guns.

Missing from the White House discussion so far has been a call to quiet liberal defunding efforts and other moves to punish police.

Johnson said police find their jobs impossible to do as federal, state, and local officials tie their hands.

"They are subject to foolish, knee-jerk legislative action that will subject them to nearly unlimited personal liability and criminal prosecution just for doing their job. Young people who may otherwise be interested in serving in law enforcement now look elsewhere because police have been widely vilified in our culture, by media organizations, and by elected leaders at all levels. Biden has supported all of this in a number of ways," he said.

He noted retirements since the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis have soared.

He said they jumped 65% in Austin, Texas, 130% in Cleveland, 20% in Chicago, and 62% among Los Angeles sheriffs.

Thompson - who, along with other law enforcement officials and executives, was a regular at the Trump era White House and often included in the former president's crime initiatives - suggested Biden approach the crime and police issues like former President Ronald Reagan with the military.

"Now more than ever, we need the financial resources to recruit, train, hire, and retain the best and brightest who are sworn to protect us. In the 1970s, the Pentagon faced a qualitative crisis, but the nation invested in its people and built the finest military in the world," he said.

Thompson added, "Now it's time for our federal government to invest in our communities, and let local law enforcement fight this scourge with transparency and fairness."
 

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Good morning. I have not been around because I was camping in Montana. A grizz killed a lady a ways south of us, but with no cell service I didn't hear until dieseling up in Helena. Sure some nasty comments about a poor dead woman in the social media. Who woukd think you couldn't have food in your tent when camping by the post office in town.

As for defunding the police the average Democrat is so partisan they will defend the lie. They dont want to give up abortion because they may get the neighbors wife pregnant and they don't want to give up gay rights because they may want her ten year old son too. There has to be a reason they are so extremely partisan, and I'm guessing its to disgusting for them to reveal.
 
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