[nodakoutdoors.com]

After another great testimony by Bill Mitzel of Dakota Country, I want to make sure everyone is aware that isn't subscribers.

This is a magazine that looks out for our future ( not to mention it's my favorite magazine period ), not many businesses that are willing to stick out there neck for it these days...so for that I have nothing but praise for Dakota Country.

http://www.dakotacountrymagazine.com/

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[ND Gander]

Can any one tell me why Bill M. hates guides and Outfitters, yet his own Son is a guide and lots of his Mag. customers are guides and sell hunts. I checked 2002 ND Guide List and Jon M. is listed. I ran into him on the river one time 2 years ago and he was guiding 2 clients from down south. Just would like to know what's up?

 

[Fetch]

I don't think he hates guides - I believe he is like alot of us - he has expirenced the truely great parts of ND Outdoors & has written about it for many years.

& just hates to see ND become a overly commercialized State like so many others.

Being a guide is not a evil thing - it's just when they try to manipulate & control more than their share (For profit) & try to make so many others that don't hunt - think they are doing what is best for ND

- It is only a recent thing, that Freelance hunters have woke up & are trying to learn how to play their game. That many want to do what they can to let Freelance hunters try to catch up & maybe even (make better) what well over 90% that participate, want to see happen.

 

[HuntnLab]

Dakota county is a really great magazine, I look forward to it every month. I would highly recommend it to anyone who loves to hunt and fish in ND.

 

[Old Hunter]

Telling the the true story must be costing Bill a huge amount of money. I was not a subscriber in the past. I will be ordering the magazine today with the intenion of subscibing for life. Its a great magazine and the least I can do for the business.

 

[Ron Gilmore]

Having know Bill since the start of his magaizine and having fished with him, I am not surprised by his testimony, His outlook is fundamental to the core of what the magizine is about. It may cost him some advertising dollars and a place to hunt, but right is right.

Ron

 

[Field Hunter]

I'm ordering the magazine first thing Monday morning. By the way the 18 year old had prior permission from his school's administration as a great way to experience the ND legislature first hand. He also has a 4.0 grade point average this year as a senior besides hunting and fishing any chance he gets.

 

[ND Gander]

I too really enjoy Dakota Country. My point is how sincere is Mr. Mitzel when his kid is a guide. Jon is a big part of the Mag. and he is a 6 year established outfitter. Sounds like most of Mr. Mitzel's testimony was based on the commercialization of ND. Selling magazines that promote fishing and hunting in the Dakota's are not a clear cut version of commercial use of wildlife, or selling ads that promote guide services and resorts. But having guides write articles, having guides as major players of the production of the magazine makes me wonder if Mr. Mitzel is using this debate to make him look good to the average sportsman, yet on the other side take $ from buisness side. Looks to me like he is trying to eat his cake. Some times I wonder if we didnt have these magazines telling the world how great our hunting and fishing is if we would not have these problems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[economics 101]

ND Gander,

Sounds like you hit a nail. Man who speak from both sides speaks no truth. Good points.

 

[Ron Gilmore]

Econ 101

What you are missing is that he hs stepped up to the plate, and stated his reasons for that give him credit. He is a business owner and may face economic lost for his views so I challenge you to put up a sign in your business so that when us free lance hunters that you do not support will know who you are and what you stood for we can then make the desicion to patronize your business or not.

You have the luxary of a screen name to hide behind he chose not to. I will be changing my screen name to refect my name for these reasons soon so I will walk the walk.

Ron

 

[Fetch]

I believe he is mostly a fishing guide. -

& at least they have to compete on the same playing field - But if they could they would lease evey bit of water in the State.

But that is the big difference - they can't

I don't think anyone should be able to lease land for hunting either -& Corporate hunting Guides should be banned-

this is now bordering on becoming a personal attack - Want more answers call Bill - he will talk to anyone.

 

[northwind]

That's a good one on this site, defend someone from a personal attack. I don't recall anyone suggesting to give Mr. Scheel's a call to defend himself.

Oh well, we have gotten this magazine for about 2 1/2 years now and it is interesting you want to split the guides into good guides and bad guides. Or is it just that if they mainly guide fishing they are alright. Do you ever wonder why you are so divided?

Anyway check out the full page ad next to the Dakota Trails by Mr. Mitzel. This is one of the single best sites for the answers to many hunting questions. One of our buddies is negotiating a lease found here and we've got a couple guys looking into waterfowl hunting. I think 2 guys are trying to get a group together to buy one of the farms or ranches listed. What a great magazine for the non-resident to find his new honey-hole. One of the guys is going to check out a couple of the waterfowl spots when he goes out to pick up his HumVee at Rydels. He couldn't believe they got the darn things in stock and he had a choice of 3 colors. You guys don't know how lucky you are to live in that great state of yours.

Several of the guys are going to be bringing their kids along because the license is so reasonable for them as well. Looks like we won't make it to Nebraska this year.

Good luck trying to shut us out, but I think you will find the real majority of the people in your state want us there.

Time to get back to skiing.

 

[bioman]

Northwind:

I think you meant "ice" skiing. Everybody knows that Vermont is one of the worst places to ski, so have fun out on the ice hill :wink:

 

[KEN W]

Your'e welcome to come out and hunt Northwind.We aren't trying to shut you out.Bring your kids.They will be able to buy a license for the same amount of money it costs me if the are under 16.Can't beat that deal.AND res. sportsmen are supporting that bill.I've talked to both my Reps and Senator asking them to vote for that bill.

 

[Fetch]

That's a good one on this site, defend someone from a personal attack. I don't recall anyone suggesting to give Mr. Scheel's a call to defend himself.

Thats a good idea - I like Scheels - But may not spend much there if he does not support Freelance hunting.

it is interesting you want to split the guides into good guides and bad guides. Or is it just that if they mainly guide fishing they are alright. Do you ever wonder why you are so divided?

If you have ever went back & read things here from the past - I was a guide for awhile - had a good friend that was a guide for nearly 20 years.

But the point was "if they compete with other hunters & / or only post their own land & not lease way more land than they need - especially for SOB's & Phesants - that mush land it takes for those two species Is Rediculous

But your right in General there are no Good Guides

Your attitude that money should buy privledge in all things - will not sit well in ND

Posts like yours only help our side - as residents of ND see your true colors

 

[Fetch]

Ken - I'm not sure of that but taking Eddies show for a few days & sitting at the Winter show & answering questions - sure seems she is feeling good.

I did not vote for her last time - But I sure would next time. - Having a heart & a mind, would be a big improvement over what we have now.

 

[Dick Monson]

Fetch, who is at the Winter Show, Hedi, or Ed?

 

[Fetch]

(Opps this belongs on another thread ) I thought Hedi was broadcsting Live from the Winter show when she did Ed's show while he was on his way to Cuba - ???

 

[tsodak]

Heidi was broadcasting from the KFYR Ag show or something out of Bismarck. ND winter show was this weekend through the next Fetch. Tom

 

[djleye]

Hey Ron, Noce letter in th forum this am!!!!! Great job!