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I checked out the Barr website just out of curiosity. Wierd how something like this doesnt get the attention of the news media?

Atlanta, GA - Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's nominee for president, has filed a lawsuit in Texas demanding Senators John McCain and Barack Obama be removed from the ballot after they missed the official filing deadline.

"The seriousness of this issue is self-evident," the lawsuit states. "The hubris of the major parties has risen to such a level that they do not believe that the election laws of the State of Texas apply to them."

Texas election code §192.031 requires that the "written certification" of the "party's nominees" be delivered "before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before election day." Because neither candidate had been nominated by the official filing deadline, the Barr campaign argues it was impossible for the candidates to file under state law.

"Supreme Court justices should recognize that their responsibility is to apply the law as passed by the Legislature, and the law is clear that the candidates cannot be certified on the ballot if their filings are late," says Drew Shirley, a local attorney for the Barr campaign, who is also a Libertarian candidate for the Texas Supreme Court.

A 2006 Texas Supreme Court decision ruled that state laws "does not allow political parties or candidates to ignore statutory deadlines."

Orrin Grover, attorney for Bob Barr and Wayne Root, said that he believes that the Texas Secretary of State is bound by Texas law to remove the Republican and Democratic nominees from the November ballot. "Either we have rules and deadlines, or we do not," Grover said.

The Chairman of the Texas Libertarian Party, Pat Dixon stated, "Libertarian principles require personal responsibility for your acts and failures. Obama and McCain failed to meet the deadlines. They must follow the law like everyone else."

The petition also alleges that the Democratic Party's late presidential filing falsely claimed under oath that Senator Obama had been nominated hours before the nomination actually occurred.

"The facts of the case are not in dispute," says Russell Verney, manager of the Barr campaign. "Republicans and Democrats missed the deadline, but were still allowed on the ballot. Third parties are not allowed on the ballot for missing deadlines, as was the case for our campaign in West Virginia, yet the Texas secretary of state's office believes Republicans and Democrats to be above the law." ... om-ballot/

Barr Campaign Statement on Texas Supreme Court Ruling

"We are disappointed with the Texas Supreme Court's denial of our request to have the Secretary of State abide by the law and remove the names of Senators Obama and McCain from the election ballot," stated Russell Verney, manager of Bob Barr's presidential campaign, following the Texas Supreme Court ruling.

"The Court's one-sentence denial deprived us, and the voters of Texas, of any explanation of the Courts reasons for arbitrarily exempting the Republicans and the Democrats from the clear deadline set forth in the law," Verney continued. "Third parties and Independent candidates are consistently told that deadlines are deadlines. Texas has somehow determined that deadlines are just suggestions but we are left without the guidance of the Court's reasons."

The campaign is consulting with its attorneys to decide whether to further challenge the ruling of the Texas Supreme Court.

Verney stated that despite the ruling by the Texas court, "the campaign will continue to bring its message of individual liberty and smaller government to voters in Texas and across the country."

Verney also noted that preceding the Texas decision, the Barr Campaign was informed of a successful outcome to their ballot access lawsuits in Massachusetts and Louisiana, and will be on the ballot in at least 46 states.

Libertarian Party presidential candidate Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003. ... rt-ruling/

What do you think? Does he have a legit arguement?

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Not sure, but in my opinion no judge would want to touch this with a ten foot pole. Can any of us imagine the stink if they tried to deny a state the right to vote in the upcoming election. Whew what a stench there would be.
I guess I have not paid attention to who is ahead in Texas. I would think McCain because they are conservative, but then they have a lot of Hispanics so maybe Obama. I say that in prefacing my next comment. Whoever is behind in that state I'll bet would like to eliminate them in the race.
Now I have to go see who they think is winning in Texas. If no one tells me in the next half hour that is. Call me lazy. :D

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Man that would have been great! I wish the courts would have upheld the law like they were supposed to, based off that one post it sure sounds like it was an open and closed case to me, but you all know how those things go. Its always so enjoyable watching the corruption in our system. (not that I know this subject is all true)

As for write in votes on the ballet…. Well my fiancé told me they were not going to be counted in this upcoming election, I'm not sure where she got that info…… I don't know that that is legal, but if the people of this country don't care enough to stand up for their rights then the boys in DC will continue to do what they want when they want.
I'll check with her and see if I can get some better info on the write in votes not being counted.

Enjoy the hunting!
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