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Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:25 am

Looks like a Canadian company was involved with the fraud in our election. Example: In a strongly republican county of Michigan the vote come in two to one for Biden. An inspection revealed that a Canadian company that produced the computer program for the vote had made a mistake. Mistake my a$$. It turns out the real vote was two to one for Trump, and the same program was used in much of the country.
In Nevada the law requires that a person be a resident for 30 days prior to the election. Currently it appears that many of the votes were by non residents.
Chuck has posted many other examples of fraud. If they catch these people it should be life in prison for endangering our country. This is nothing less than treason.

Edit: Most votes on election day were for Trump. In Arizona machines started counting votes as "over votes" and eliminated them. They were never looked at by a vote observer.

Attorney Sidney Powell found a sack of 450,000 votes all for Biden. Not one Trump vote. If you believe this is legitimate I have swamp land for sale.

This was not simply democrats taking advantage of mail in votes. This isn't a right wing conspiracy theory. This was a real conspiracy. The conspiracy isn't only to make Biden president it's to turn America socialist perhaps full fledged communist.

Currently on TV 47 counties in Michigan used the software that was rigged for Biden. It was also rigged to dishonestly take the senate.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:40 am

450,000 Votes With Single Entry?


450,000 votes with ALL for Biden/Harris and no other entries made.
ZERO ballots marked with Trump/Pence with no other entries made.

That is statistically and mathematically IMPOSSIBLE!

The DNC is so damn evil how can they even say they're important to America?

Dominion Software, LTD runs the election software in 30+ states.


This is an attack coming from a foreign entity. Make them suffer. We need a new election.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:52 am

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/202 ... cerns.html

This article states that an Oregon Eleciton director was fired for just pointing out that the system they use has security risks. WHY WOULD SOMEONE GET FIRED FOR THIS...

Again this isn't about Dem's vs Republicans.... this is about the integrity of our election process.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:56 am

Here is a Whistle Blowers complaint from Michigan....

Again not saying that these were not absentee ballots or the possibility of them... but just seems fishy when not a single vote was for another person.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:59 am

There are allegations of ballot harvesting at Nursing homes in PA....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -residents

Again not saying it happened... but there are allegations that need to be looked into. Funny how they have strict rules on who and how you can visit yet this could possibly happen???? :poke:
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:11 am

The only reason why I am showing this is that there is fraud out there. Along with looking at the "Mail in ballot" thread. It shows fraud is out there with our election process.

Again do I think that there is enough to over turn Biden vs Trump.... no. But this should show you that we as a society need to look at things and make adjustments so this doesn't happen again and again.

We need to watch Big Tech and make sure they allow everyone to have a voice... if not they need to be classified as a different entity and taxed, litigated as such, etc. They don't get the protections they have now.

We need to make sure people don't "ballot harvest".

We need to make sure people don't surpress voters with intimidation

we need to make sure everyone has access to watching polls and ballots counted

etc.


The one thing that I read and will be very interesting in PA. Is that the State Supreme court ruled and said "ballots can be counted after a certain date".... COURTS DONT MAKE OR CHANGE LAWS.... they inturpert them. State Legislature makes or changes laws. in PA they didn't do that. So honestly this could get interesting.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Sasha and Abby » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:43 pm

This has turned into a real &$#* show... I've about had it too...
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Canuck » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:38 pm

I propose a televised duel....back to back, take ten paces, turn and fire...Vegas can work the odds...half the money to charity... :D

With luck when the smoke clears you have a tie...and two less politicians.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:46 pm

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1 ... 9136125956

Here is something in NV....

I propose a televised duel....back to back, take ten paces, turn and fire...Vegas can work the odds...half the money to charity... :D

With luck when the smoke clears you have a tie...and two less politicians.


This is very accurate.... :beer: :thumb:

Hope i don't have black suburbans at my door tonight... lol
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:27 am

In 2016 Hillary with the Russians messed with out election. This year Canada through Dominion is messing with our election. Their program has more than one problem and every time a problem comes to light it has been against president Trump. Statistically its very improbable that this is an accident. It dropped Trump votes, and it switched Trump votes to Biden. Something like 2.5 million votes.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:37 pm

So what's the scoop here. Some say the voting machines werre made in China and blame them, but others say the program Dominion is the real problem and comes from Canada.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Also like i stated in this thread....

Legislature is the one who makes laws....

So just now a judge in PA stated that the Sec. of State lacked the authority to say that ballots that were not positively ID'ed couldn't extend that date and those ballots need to be not counted. So what this means is that the mail in vote needed to be positively ID'ed that it was the person who cast it....ie: show ID some how. What the Sec. of State did was extend that time line by 3 extra days. The judge ruled against that "extention".

Again dont know if this will change the out come or not. But it shows you how the "goal posts" were moved during this election. Was it all in an effort to only help Biden... I dont know and couldn't answer that. But again this is why Trump is battling all of this in court.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsy ... d-deadline
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:05 pm

Plainsman wrote:So what's the scoop here. Some say the voting machines werre made in China and blame them, but others say the program Dominion is the real problem and comes from Canada.
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It's already been fully debunked and it is sourced to a rumor off of 8chan.

It was a glitch that was corrected, but the glitch was caused by human error on a failed update, not the software as claimed. It was corrected almost immediately.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm

I would suggest going out and reading the released transcripts from the court cases so far. The lawyers for Trump/RNC won't even use the term fraud and the numbers they are actually protesting as minuscule compared to the margins between Trump and Biden in the states. When flat out asked by the judge they admitted they have no evidence of fraud.

In PA they were contesting ballots and the judge asked the lawyers flat out if there was any fraud or undue influence on electors in any of the contested ballots and the lawyer said No.

USPS worker recanted story and affidavit claiming that Project Veritas's O'Keefe wrote it and coerced him into signing it. This was the claim that they were backdating ballots.

Trump lawyer had to admit there was in fact both republican and democrat observers in the ballot counting room where they suggested publicly there were none, they were allowed to stand a little closer as a side victory.

Michigan lawsuit got tossed by the judge as "inadmissible hearsay within hearsay" when appealed the next court labeled the entire suit as "defective".

Nevada lawsuit on automated signature detection was fully tossed.

Georgia lawsuit over a supposed 54 ballots which were claimed to have shown up late. Suit was rejected when it was proven the ballots showed up on time and there was no evidence to the contrary.

Arizona blotched ballot case didn't even make it to court before it was dropped by the complainants.

What they are saying publicly is a made up bunch of crap, they are not arguing these supposed claims in a court of law. Why wouldn't they argue it in a court of law if there was any shred of evidence supporting their wild claims. There is two reasons why lawyers will not, first they have no evidence whatsoever and 2nd they can get disbarred if they lie in court.

Trump is drawing this thing out as long as possible for one reason and one reason only, MONEY. He is asking for donations but reading the fine print most of the small donations are actually going to retire his campaign debt, not any legal defense fund.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:49 pm

Well now I know your wrong sothdakota. The video I watched they pushed outbobservers and put cardboard in the windows. People have given sworn affidavits. The officials also said there was a glich in the dominion program and 47 counties neededvrecounting. One county that has always beenheavy republican went 2 to 1vfor Biden. They descovered the program reversed the vote. There were democrats and republicans present and the democrats not wanting blame were giving the exllanation.
Have you read Chucks post explaining tovfriends who didnt get their vote counted at all. This has not been debunked. Perhaps Biden will be president, but he is not president elect as the media keeps saying. Until the delegates vote and he is officially confirmed he is not president elect.

Also the secretary of state in Pennsylvania over stepped her suthority and the court agreed with Trump. Those who had no identification will have their voted thrown out. Also those that came in late will be thrown out.

Also the Texas examiner is now at this minute on tv confirming what you say was debunked, and telling why Texas would not use Dominion. Its also false that they were not connected to the internet. Dominion failed their tests in 2017 but say its been corrected.

Its fraud when dead people vote. Its fraud when women find someone voted as them usingvtheir maiden name.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 pm

Plainsman wrote:Well now I know your wrong sothdakota. The video I watched they pushed outbobservers and put cardboard in the windows. People have given sworn affidavits. The officials also said there was a glich in the dominion program and 47 counties neededvrecounting. One county that has always beenheavy republican went 2 to 1vfor Biden. They descovered the program reversed the vote. There were democrats and republicans present and the democrats not wanting blame were giving the exllanation.
Have you read Chucks post explaining tovfriends who didnt get their vote counted at all. This has not been debunked. Perhaps Biden will be president, but he is not president elect as the media keeps saying. Until the delegates vote and he is officially confirmed he is not president elect.

Also the secretary of state in Pennsylvania and the court agreed with Trump. Those who had no identification will have their voted thrown out. Also those that came in late will be thrown out.

Also the Texas examiner is now at this minute on tv confirming what you say was debunked, and telling why Texas would not use Dominion. Its also false that they were not connected to the internet. Dominion failed their tests in 2017 but say its been corrected.

Its fraud when dead people vote. Its fraud when women find someone voted as them usingvtheir maiden name.


Two cases have been brought claiming observers weren't allowed in or were removed. The Nevada case has been dismissed and the PA case the trump lawyers admitted under questioning from the judge that there were in fact observers present at all time. Windows were covered due to threats being made on ballot counting personnel.

The "Dominion" software issue was reportedly in Antrim Co Michigan (also used in Georgia in some counties). The Michigan Sec of State clarified and said that the tabulation error was not a software error, but user human error and that the error was found almost immediately and the proper tabulated results were always reflected in the software. It was just reported wrong.

I have not seen Chucks post, I will check it out.

The court did agree with Trump in PA, not the secretary of State whom had given additional time to cure ballots by incorrectly interpreting a statute. Those ballots had been segregated and were not included in any talley so they are a moot point as well.

Texas did not use dominion as it did not meet their requirements whereas in other states it does, be it security or some other issue it did not meet Tx requirements. Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan and North Carolina still have jurisdictions using Windows 7 which has reached it service life end and does not get patched updates to protect it. Which one is better or has more issues/security problems I have no idea. But to argue it now with no proof of actual issues is a moot point. Personally I don't understand how it's allowed to be so haphazard state to state, but it is. Any arguments now will not change anything in this election, but should be had to clean up the system for the future.

I agree it is absolutely fraud when dead people vote or false ID is utilized to steal someones vote. When they are found they are actually prosecuted. Numerous, and I mean over 15 different studies conducted from 2000 to 2016 have all linked the amount of actual voter fraud to somewhere between 0.0025% and 0.0003%, which is statistically nothing. Most studies say the instances of claimed fraud, with no actual proof, are the only reason it's a topic.

There is a ton of completely false stuff being spewed and a lot of it is originating or being regurgitated from our president. There are a ton of bad actors out there taking 5 seconds of video, claiming one thing is happening, cropping out the entire view or just flat out falsely representing it. Statistically speaking the election is all but over and just awaiting certification, which will happen.

There are a lot of things that absolutely need clearing up and have needed it for a long time, but politicians will forget very shortly and it will be left to be debated after the next election as well.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:42 pm

Why are the democrats fighting a recount? Shouldnt every American want the truth? I have only heard liberal sources say this is all debunked. Time hopfully will tell.

I was watching AOC tonight. She said they need the senate so they dont need to negotiate. That explains the need for the electiral college perfectly. To prevent the majority from subjecting the minority to tyranny.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:48 am

I hear Trudeau said if Trump doesnt leave office he will send in the military to remove him. I think Trudeau and his big mouth should meet Seal Team Six. Seriously if he actually thought that way he should be eliminated now.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Canuck » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:25 am

HA HA HA :rollin: Plainsman you are hilarious.

Actually when Trump refuses to leave the White House it will be your military who will be forced to remove him.

Still you are funny. I feel sad though to see that you have fallen for all of these crazy conspiracy theories. Thought you had more on the ball. You know those scammers that phone old people and fish for information or try to scam their credit cards? You know the ones. You see them on the news after the same scammer has called them and scammed them again until they have their entire life savings. They better not get your number apparently.

You have been scammed several times recently from Canadian voting machines (turned out to be human error by the operators) to now this. But listen. If your military refuses to remove him I guess we can come down and do it for you if you want. When you finally come to your senses I mean. :beer: And the pandemic is over :bop: and the border is open :poke:
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Postby Plainsman » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:37 pm

The future will tell us who is scammed. Justike the dozens of bombshell "we got him now" stories durring the fake impeachment.
You are right though Trudeau probably didnt say that. Its just what I exlected from the fool so I jumped to conclussions just like you guys. I promise I will not do it 20 or 30 times though. Further Trudeau is your problem not mine. His little costume visiting, was it India, made me see him as a shallow and foolish man.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby BugGoSplat » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:54 pm

Yeah...I don't forsee any of these lawsuits Trump's bringing up actually going through. There's not going to be a "new election". Don't get me wrong, I don't like Biden. However, the more Trump fights like this, the less and less I like him. Learn to lose gracefully. Recoup and then come back in 4 years if Biden completely screws up--which is definitely possible.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:59 am

BugGoSplat wrote:Yeah...I don't forsee any of these lawsuits Trump's bringing up actually going through. There's not going to be a "new election". Don't get me wrong, I don't like Biden. However, the more Trump fights like this, the less and less I like him. Learn to lose gracefully. Recoup and then come back in 4 years if Biden completely screws up--which is definitely possible.

We should be getting some information today. His attorneys say they have a lot of evidence, but have not elaborated.

I like Trump fighting back. It's the swamp establishment against the masses. I think Trump did win this election, but fraud run rampant through many means. The republicans are swamp creatures because they have not been doing the job they should. Judicial Watch is coming across evidence that the republicans should have found. The republicans should also have fought harder to stop mail in voting. Anyone with any honesty at all knows this was a set up for fraud. If they catch those responsible they need to make an example of them. Life in prison isn't enough. They have committed treason so punish them for that crime. Public execution of a couple will shut that crap down.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:22 pm

I am embarrassed when I get something wrong. Have you ever noticed a liberal can be wrong more than a dozen times and next time they still have that I'm superior and never wrong attitude? I don't understand that. Can anyone explain it? Is it a lack of shame? Is it arrogance? Is it simply Trump Derangement Syndrome? I notice if a conservative is wrong once they crow about it for months. If they are wrong they forget it in nanoseconds. I may have been wrong and don't know yet about a statement supposedly made by Trudeau and a day later I'm still embarrassed. Oh well now were about 30 to 1 "with half my brain tied behind my back" in Rushes voice :rollin: . :poke:
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Resky » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:23 pm

Albert Einstein and Winston Churchill both said we learn from our mistakes. If that is true then most liberals never learn anything. If I'm wrong about something I'm never embarrassed but simply consider myself better informed. I will correct my mistake, admit my mistake, and apologize if necessary and move on as a better informed person. Anyone that thanks they never make a mistake is, well wrong and mistaken.
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Postby Resky » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:49 pm

Learn to lose gracefully. Recoup and then come back in 4 years if Biden completely screws up--which is definitely possible.


No one likes to lose. Easy to say lose gracefully in golf, checkers, or chess but this is about the future of our country and our constitution which Biden could and most likely will damage to the point, that it will take a generation of new leadership to put straight again. Trump isn't fighting just for himself but for all of us. Yeah, President Trump has a often obnoxious mouth at times but his ideas for the better of this country far out weighs those faults. Folks rooting for Biden better get ready for $5 a gallon gas and a large increase in their taxes. Tax the rich my butt, all the rich will do is raise the price on everything to cover their loss so who do you think really pays for that tax hike.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:05 pm

Here is what I could find on current status of court cases:

4 cases in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that were brought by voters were dropped today. They sought to keep the states from certifying the election but were dropped when no "expert" evidence of voter fraud was submitted. The lawfirm backed out when fraud claims couldn't be substantiated.

9 cases were dropped or denied last Friday in Arizona, Nevada and Georgia.

6 more cases were denied in Pennsylvania last Friday that sought to rule out 9000 absentee ballots.

The last remaining big case in Pennsylvania is still pending, but it has been curtailed back somewhat, originally trying to stop the state from certifying the election but now is concentrating on "curing" process for absentee/mail in ballots varying county to county. Legal experts do not expect it to gain traction.

Most of the high profile law firms have pulled out, mostly due to the president involving Rudy from what I have read.

At this point I wouldn't expect anything monumental or any significant changes in vote totals from what I have read.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:30 pm

I was listening to Newsmax tonigjt and a firm representing GM was called and told if they continue to represent Trump they woukd loose x, y, and z. So the left doesnt like bullies, but they are one.
I have heard some things have been dismissed, but exlect larger cases to bevresvealed this week. I think Trump is fighting so hard because I sincerely believe he won and not thousands but millions of votes were switched. Time I hope will tell the Truth, but a massive corrupt machine is against him.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:37 am

Here is a question to help the mentally challenged think. Why of all these hundreds of "voting mishaps" are they all in favor of Biden?????? One would think they were purposeful. Nooooo that couldnt be. I think our liberal friends and relatives are in a state of Trump Derangement Syndrome induced state of denial. There is no way in the world they are so stupid they think there was no fraud. No way.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:03 pm

I think the question is are there really all these one way mishaps. The only one I have heard of that is/was one way was the tallying issue in Michigan, which was promptly corrected. All the other issues they are pursuing or have pursued have been to reject specific lots or groups of ballots, not that it was one way or the other. There is no current lawsuit on the dominion software that I can find, yet trump and his team keep talking about it and having proof it happened. If they had a shred of proof it would already be in court.

The trump team is putting a lot of stuff out there that isn’t holding up in court so far, but they continue to push that rhetoric which is misleading at best if they know that yet still continue to state it.

I just want to see the counts done fairly and legally, according to the state rules, not someone else rules because it favors one or the other. So far, most if not all of the claims have proven to be baseless and have been dropped or thrown out of court, most by republican appointed judges.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:06 pm

And, being serious here, Trump is pretty well known to state whatever suits him regardless of the truthfulness in what he is stating, not that most of the media is any better, but we should expect more from both sides.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:30 pm

I just want to see the counts done fairly and legally, according to the state rules, not someone else rules because it favors one or the other. So far, most if not all of the claims have proven to be baseless and have been dropped or thrown out of court, most by republican appointed judges.


This is my exact thoughts as well. I just want to make sure the integrity of our elections are held to the highest of standards. I don't want it to be "legal" for a State AG to make changes to laws as they see fit. I don't want State Govenors to do the same... etc. If they go thru the proper channels and things get changed... great. I dont want to see "emergency" powers to be used and abused for political purposes.... etc.

Here is the sad part about all of this and it honestly started under OBAMA... What we will see happen under Biden Administration is Executive orders that will over rule or over ride the Executive orders that Trump did. We will see presidents keep trying to "skirt" congress to push agendas. Obama did it. Trump did it... and now Biden will do it. It is the way our political system has turned into with CONGRESS not wanting to work with the President. Yes I am blaming all of them... not one party or the other. :bop:
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Plainsman » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:53 pm

I think the question is are there really all these one way mishaps.
Many people have give sworn affidavits
which hold the penalty of perjury if they lie.

The only one I have heard of that is/was one way was the tallying issue in Michigan, which was promptly corrected.
Well currently the only one sticking in my head is the 2600 votes they found in a box in Georgia that they forgot to count. Forgot the content, but something like 80% Trump. Not all Trump.
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Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:55 pm

Well currently the only one sticking in my head is the 2600 votes they found in a box in Georgia that they forgot to count. Forgot the content, but something like 80% Trump. Not all Trump.


So this just shows you that the fact that "all biden" votes that were "found" shows the fact of 100% votes for one canidate is ALMOST statistically impossible. Out of 2600 not all of them favor Trump.... how can 25000 or more all favor just one canidate.

Again I am not saying it is totally impossible but this is what the issue is.


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Postby Plainsman » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:02 pm

I don't know where it stands in the courts, but there is still the 220,000 switched votes innnnnn where was it? Anyway that has the impact of 440,000.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:48 pm

The main problem for all of us is that we won’t know until after the fact if there is any validity to many of the claims.

I still go back to what the trump campaign is saying in public vs what they are actually filing lawsuits over are vastly different. Which leads me to believe most of the wild claims are pretty much bogus because if there were a shred of truth to them there would be a lawsuit based on them, which there is not.

There have also been multiple affidavits that have been recanted by the signing party and others that basically claim nothing or what might have appeared. Basically in non-legal speak they can’t actually say they actually witnessed anything. Just that they might have saw something but can’t be sure.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Canuck » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:52 pm

Lindsey Graham, tsk, tsk, tsk...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/georgia-elections-chief-says-lindsey-graham-suggested-he-throw-out-legal-ballots-1.5191958
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 pm

Plainsman wrote:
I think the question is are there really all these one way mishaps.
Many people have give sworn affidavits
which hold the penalty of perjury if they lie.

The only one I have heard of that is/was one way was the tallying issue in Michigan, which was promptly corrected.
Well currently the only one sticking in my head is the 2600 votes they found in a box in Georgia that they forgot to count. Forgot the content, but something like 80% Trump. Not all Trump.


800 net gain for trump on that one.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby Chuck Smith » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:36 pm

I still go back to what the trump campaign is saying in public vs what they are actually filing lawsuits over are vastly different. Which leads me to believe most of the wild claims are pretty much bogus because if there were a shred of truth to them there would be a lawsuit based on them, which there is not.

There have also been multiple affidavits that have been recanted by the signing party and others that basically claim nothing or what might have appeared. Basically in non-legal speak they can’t actually say they actually witnessed anything. Just that they might have saw something but can’t be sure.



I agree with this 100% and it does all come down to what you can PROVE. But look at Russia... oh wait they didn't prove nothing but had lots of lip jacking..... how about Ukraine... oh wait again same thing. (yes this is a jab and people on the left... :poke: )


But yes it comes to what can be proven vs what people say. Just like you mentioned in the last sentence above.... it is people are "hearing" things... but never witnessed anything. Just like a boss can say... go do this... but if the people dont actually do it (that can be proven)... did it happen. It has to be proven that it did happen. That is the issues... and how large of a scale was it done on. Did 100 ballots or did 1 million ballots. Lots of WHAT IF's need to be proven. But what is scary is that the Media used to run wild with the "what ifs"... but now they are silent. :bop:
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Postby Plainsman » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:36 pm

Chuck do you watch Newsmax? They are saying the Dominion software was field tested in Venezuala. They also say our CIA has the program. Attorney Sidney Powel is said to have an impecable reputation and she says Trump won in a landslide and recieved over 80 million votes. The reason some precincts were shut down was because the algorythems in the Dominion program were not set to overcome such a large vote for Trump. Thats why one precinct run Biden votes over and over through a machine. More and more fraud is coming to light.
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Re: Election fraud

Postby southdakbearfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:21 pm

The whole dominion software thing doesn't hold much water. OANN started the entire thing based off of data from Edison Research. There is only one problem with that, Edison Research didn't publish any report stating such and their CEO said they have no data that would suggest it. So it's a rumor started by a fringe news network, with no backing or data, that the president clamped onto.

I really fear history is not going to smile kindly on the republican party, which I am a member of, for running with these wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

Maybe I am wrong, but every single case they are bringing is failing and no evidence is being presented in these cases whatsoever.

If you have such information, you don't tease it, you don't hold it, you file a case and present it to the court.
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