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Wulffhunter wrote:Think about it. 65 feet further away in one second.. That's a long ways. So think about lead reduction and the less crippled birds. I shot it at snow geese this spring thru my patternmaster (not recommended but didn't have any other shells) and it flat out dropped them at fifty yards constantly. And there's not that much more recoil either.
clint_hay wrote:Kent's 3" 2's....shoot them for everything. No need for expensive loads for decoying birds at 20-30 yards
SkunkNipples wrote:I have run the Hyper-sonics #2 threw my Browning with a factory fullchoke and it patterns well and hammers em. I personally don't bother with all the fear around no steel through full chokes. 3 Seasons of hunting with a full choke not a scratch on it. I get good patterns with the 1550's Remington make. I usually have a box or 2 of Hypersonics in my blind bag and switch between Hi speed Steels #2 and Hypersonic #2. Just see what your gun patterns well.
kingcanada wrote:The designer steel loads are a waste of money.
Buy a good patterning load and put the pattern where it needs to go and birds will die. It's that simple. Buy Speed shocks or Kent Fasteel and spend the difference on better decoys or more gas to hunt more birds.
clint_hay wrote:Kent's 3" 2's....shoot them for everything. No need for expensive loads for decoying birds at 20-30 yards
the professor wrote:Wulffhunter wrote:Think about it. 65 feet further away in one second.. That's a long ways. So think about lead reduction and the less crippled birds. I shot it at snow geese this spring thru my patternmaster (not recommended but didn't have any other shells) and it flat out dropped them at fifty yards constantly. And there's not that much more recoil either.
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time to target at 50 yards:
1450 fps load: 0.16 seconds
1700 fps load: 0.143 seconds
Lead reduction? we're talking less than .02 seconds.
snow wrote:Jethro,
Federal blue box,kent and dry lok will kill birds over dekes just fine,use what works for ya,some of us take it to the next level.
FLOYD wrote:the professor wrote:Wulffhunter wrote:Think about it. 65 feet further away in one second.. That's a long ways. So think about lead reduction and the less crippled birds. I shot it at snow geese this spring thru my patternmaster (not recommended but didn't have any other shells) and it flat out dropped them at fifty yards constantly. And there's not that much more recoil either.
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time to target at 50 yards:
1450 fps load: 0.16 seconds
1700 fps load: 0.143 seconds
Lead reduction? we're talking less than .02 seconds.
LOL, exactly what I was thinking.
One thing I tend to notice is that the guys who can shoot, can shoot......and the guys who can't, can't.
Not trying to be a smartass, it's just the truth.
dakotashooter2 wrote:I went hunting with some younger guys this year. All were shooting 3 1/2 in designer loads. I fired three shots while they each probably went through a 1/2 box of shells. 7 hunters downed about 15 birds. We had about 30 yards distance between the first and last shooter. I was in the middle. Every time birds came I waited for them to get within 30 yards of the furthest shooter. Most of the time they never got that close because the guys on the end started opening up before they even got within 30 yards of me. They were shooting 50-60 yards at birds that would have landed in thier lap if they let them. I also noted that they had to chase down about the same number of birds I generally have to...........................
snogeezmen wrote:My daddy always told me you can't make apple pie outta horse &$#*!!!!! Think that applys here.![]()
Whatever's the cheapest at the store is my load.....yes 2 3/4" 2's knock geese down deader than &$#*!!!!