Trust Trump?

[southdakbearfan]

I saw this the other day so I will not claim it as my own. I am going off my memory so I will probably screw it up.

According to some for the past several months since the election this is what is happening:

We cannot trust voters, we cannot trust election officials, we cannot trust bipartisan poll observation, we cannot trust republican & democrat secretaries of state, we cannot trust republican & democrat governors, we cannot trust state courts, we cannot trust magistrate courts, we cannot trust appeals courts, we cannot trust the supreme court, we cannot trust the department of homeland security, we cannot trust attorney general bill barr, we cannot trust the FBI, we cannot trust the CISA chief and we cannot trust the DOJ.

But we can trust Donald Trump that the election was stolen.

Roll that around in your head for about 3 minutes and think about how mindbogglingly stupid it is.

[Plainsman]

Now we agree. I would rather have Trump as a dictator than Biden as president. This country has fallen. Better a patriotic dictator than us turning communist and having a communist Chinese puppet for a fake president. Next best succeed from the communist east and west coast. We still have ports in Texas. When the east and west coast goes to pot in a few years take them over militarily before they sell to China. Dont let their current generation ever vote again.

This isn't democrat vs republican because most in Washington are corrupt. This is good vs evil and only about 5% are on the side I would call good.

[KEN W]

How can you possibly prefer a Nazi dictator over an elected president? Are you really that fanatical and that far out on the right?

[Plainsman]

How can you possibly prefer a Nazi dictator over an elected president? Are you really that fanatical and that far out on the right?

What elected president would that be? The real one or the thief? No I would prefer an American loving, non pervert, hard working dictator to the administration of sniff and suck.

[KEN W]

There is NO proof that the election was stolen. 60 cases in court .....ALL found no election fraud. Including a conservative Supreme Court. The only one trying to steal an election is Trump. He lost period.

Pervert?????who said he could grab women by the crotch and they would let him????On tape. Biden has NEVER been accused of being a pervert.

Sniff and suck?????that's not even worth replying to.

[Plainsman]

Biden has NEVER been accused of being a pervert.

How short the memory.

[speckline]

Just for your inormation Ken.
https://www.thecut.com/2020/04/joe-bide ... tions.html

Plus a little picture of a VERY UNCOMFORTABLE young lady
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/ne ... 333267002/

[huntin1]

There is NO proof that the election was stolen. 60 cases in court .....ALL found no election fraud. Including a conservative Supreme Court. The only one trying to steal an election is Trump. He lost period.

Pervert?????who said he could grab women by the crotch and they would let him????On tape. Biden has NEVER been accused of being a pervert.

Sniff and suck?????that's not even worth replying to.

Well, at least no proof that anyone will listen to. But there is proof.

Lawyer For Leonardo Contractor Who Witnessed U.S. Election Interference Operation In Italy Recounts Affidavit Via Video:


https://itnshow.com/wp-content...tor-leonardo.mp4?_=1



Professor Alfio D’Urso, the lawyer for the man who claims to have witnessed the operation to interfere with the U.S. election in Italy on election night, has released a video detailing his sworn affidavit.

That written affidavit was reportedly delivered to members of the U.S. Congress on Wednesday. Remarkably, the vote to certify the 2020 election results – even though evidence may exist that those results are fraudulent – went forward.

D’Urso’s client, a man by the name of Arturo D’Elia, claims to have taken part in an operation in which operatives from various intelligence agencies remotely manipulated votes from several locations in Italy, including the U.S. Embassy in Rome, and used military satellites owned and operated by Italian defense contractor Leonardo SpA to do it.

The revelations are being brought to light with the help of Maria Zack, Chairwoman of NationsInAction.org, a government accountability advocacy group based in Florida. Zack reportedly has received intercepts, photos and records of phone calls from the Italian intelligence service which is helping to bring the allegations to light.

D’Elia says he is willing to testify to all individuals and entities who participated in the scheme, which allegedly involved the switching of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden on election night.

Significantly, D’Elia says he has made data backups of the original data and the data after the switches the operatives were instructed to make, and is willing to provide that evidence in court.

Requests for comment from various members of Congress, including Speaker Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer have so far gone unanswered.

https://itnshow.com/2021/01/09...affidavit-via-video/

As to Biden not being a pervert, you are either delusional, or in denial.

[southdakbearfan]

There is NO proof that the election was stolen. 60 cases in court .....ALL found no election fraud. Including a conservative Supreme Court. The only one trying to steal an election is Trump. He lost period.

Pervert?????who said he could grab women by the crotch and they would let him????On tape. Biden has NEVER been accused of being a pervert.

Sniff and suck?????that's not even worth replying to.

Well, at least no proof that anyone will listen to. But there is proof.

Lawyer For Leonardo Contractor Who Witnessed U.S. Election Interference Operation In Italy Recounts Affidavit Via Video:


https://itnshow.com/wp-content...tor-leonardo.mp4?_=1



Professor Alfio D’Urso, the lawyer for the man who claims to have witnessed the operation to interfere with the U.S. election in Italy on election night, has released a video detailing his sworn affidavit.

That written affidavit was reportedly delivered to members of the U.S. Congress on Wednesday. Remarkably, the vote to certify the 2020 election results – even though evidence may exist that those results are fraudulent – went forward.

D’Urso’s client, a man by the name of Arturo D’Elia, claims to have taken part in an operation in which operatives from various intelligence agencies remotely manipulated votes from several locations in Italy, including the U.S. Embassy in Rome, and used military satellites owned and operated by Italian defense contractor Leonardo SpA to do it.

The revelations are being brought to light with the help of Maria Zack, Chairwoman of NationsInAction.org, a government accountability advocacy group based in Florida. Zack reportedly has received intercepts, photos and records of phone calls from the Italian intelligence service which is helping to bring the allegations to light.

D’Elia says he is willing to testify to all individuals and entities who participated in the scheme, which allegedly involved the switching of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden on election night.

Significantly, D’Elia says he has made data backups of the original data and the data after the switches the operatives were instructed to make, and is willing to provide that evidence in court.

Requests for comment from various members of Congress, including Speaker Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer have so far gone unanswered.

https://itnshow.com/2021/01/09...affidavit-via-video/

As to Biden not being a pervert, you are either delusional, or in denial.

So explain how a hand recount of the paper ballots would match if any of this wild fantasy were true?

[huntin1]

I can't explain it, but I do think that this and other claims of impropriety should be fully investigated. This is kind of important. Or do you prefer to not know simply because the apparent lie will result in Trump leaving office, something the Democrats have been trying to accomplish since he was elected.

[Plainsman]

Its realy dirty that the FBI took ballots away from the forensic team in Georgia, and took thrm to the shredder. That simply adds to the suspicion and accomplishes nothing other than further dividing the American people. At the same time Biden asks for unity he is exhibiting contempt and his allies are even further censoring the Americsn people. When democrats were in the minority and even burning the American flag back in the 1960's they always hid behind freedom of speech and the republicans who believed in the constitution didnt agree with what they were doing but left them alone. As soon as the democrats felt they had the upper hand they turned on the constitution, even showing disdain for it. Now they implement the equivelent of 1933 German book burning, and show no respect for the constitution.
The older people like myself need to look back into our past at the democrats and tell the younger generation who the democrats realy are. They were getting unpopular so not being stupid they became actors and pretend to be what they are not. Back in the 1960's they called the police pigs. They met our returning soldiers at the docks and spit on them accusing them of being bsby killers. They burnedvthe American flag, threw itvon the ground as it burned, and soit and stomped on it. Some including Bill Clinton went to Russia and demonstrated in ftont of the American embassy. For what purpose? To display thier contempt for America. And why in Russia? To display to the world the country they did admire. Thier history displays thier contempt for police, for military. for America and its people and constitution. The greatest irony is they called our vets baby killers in the 1960's and now thats actually what they have become selling body parts like a meat market.

I always seen Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals as the democrat playbook, but maybe old Paul Harvey was on to them.
https://youtu.be/4LWPcEo2gV0
Dont skip the video. Its amazing that Paul Harvey expected this in 1965.

[Plainsman]

Why Trump doesnt want socialism. This is the socialism AOC and her crowd want, and Biden will fall in line. The ANTIFA are fools playing right into this, but with thier leadership fully aware. George Soros with the money, and our famouse community organizer organizing. This man was aware in 1969. Today half our democrats are unaware. More scary the other half are aware and want it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jAr3mYcoVQ

[southdakbearfan]

I can't explain it, but I do think that this and other claims of impropriety should be fully investigated. This is kind of important. Or do you prefer to not know simply because the apparent lie will result in Trump leaving office, something the Democrats have been trying to accomplish since he was elected.

So for arguments sake, the multitude of courts looked at it and found nothing, the governors, secretaries of states, election security officials, DOJ, CISA, poll observers and state legislatures all the same and they certified the vote/electors. Theses were all done by republicans and democrat representatives.

Besides unsubstantiated claims and hearsay the courts rejected as inadmissible, inplausible or factually incorrect what exactly should they be looking at? Should they just start huge investigations into every claim even when all actual evidence points to the opposite being true? Where does it stop and when? Can elections be disputed indefinitely regardless of actual evidence?

Given that I am still all for a full investigation, to include prosecution and penalties for those that are proven to have lied in support of either side, but the election in itself by all available evidence and legal proceedings was actually fine.

[Plainsman]

the election in itself by all available evidence and legal proceedings was actually fine.

Sure.

I see Mr unity Biden wants all Trump supporting republicans investigated. Will Putin be our next president.

[southdakbearfan]

the election in itself by all available evidence and legal proceedings was actually fine.

Sure.

I see Mr unity Biden wants all Trump supporting republicans investigated. Will Putin be our next president.

So show me the court case, legal evidence, etc that was produced to say otherwise?

Not an edited 30 second blip from YouTube the courts tossed or some wild conspiracy theory that never even made it into court?

[Plainsman]

To msny coincidences. All battle ground ststes stopping counting at the same time. then opening miraculously with a Biden lead, FBI shredding ballots etc. This may be like the Kennedy assassination. We cant prove anything, but he is dead.

[Chuck Smith]

Given that I am still all for a full investigation, to include prosecution and penalties for those that are proven to have lied in support of either side, but the election in itself by all available evidence and legal proceedings was actually fine.

Here is the issue. THE COURTS IN SOME CASES BASICALLY TOLD PEOPLE.... WE SEE YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE BUT NOT ENOUGH TO OVER TURN ANYTHING... GO FIND MORE. Yes that is the break down of some of the court cases and rulings on all of this. What it means is that they found "fraud" with lets say 1 out of 100 ballots. That isn't enough to over turn anything but does show there was "fraud". So come back with more evidence. Or that they acknowledged the "irregularities" but those are not enough to change the out come....ie: Find more evidence. That was a bunch of the court cases. Along with the "he said She said" type evidence that was submitted. Which again doesn't give enough to do anything or "act" on it. Because it is like two neighbors arguing over a lot line.... it is a he said she said type situation.... until "more evidence" or the surveyor comes out the court cant "rule" on it. Again... these are examples of basically what the courts said in a few of the cases.

HENCE.... SD agrees on that there should be more of an investigation into these things to see if in the future things need to be fixed. It is what I totally agree with as well. But what is sad is that Pelosi is denying these investigations. We need to know WHY? If you dont think that looks "fishy" then again... open your eyes and just think if it was on the other foot or situations were reversed. Wouldn't you want the Republican leader of the house to investigate to give you some faith in our election process.

Also the weak argument but is an argument is that many of the votes were "mail in". How do you know that the people actually voted that way? How do you know they were not under duress or pressured to vote a certain way? When people walk into a poll there are observers who see and are supposed to act on it. Again dont know how much of this is "fraud" or not or how big of a scale if any of this happened. But is an arguement and should get investigated to a certain degree.

BTW.... you think that states could conclude an investigation into "fraud" in two months time? They dont get murder investigations done that fast when someone confesses to the murder, they have the weapon, they have it on video, and have 10 witnesses. THINGS TAKE TIME.

[southdakbearfan]

To msny coincidences. All battle ground ststes stopping counting at the same time. then opening miraculously with a Biden lead, FBI shredding ballots etc. This may be like the Kennedy assassination. We cant prove anything, but he is dead.

Except all those theories on stopping the count, shredding ballots etc have been proven false.

[KEN W]

Worst president ever.


A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that President Donald Trump's approval rating stands at 33%, while his disapproval is at 60%.

An average of recent polls finds Trump with a 38% approval rating and 59% disapproval rating.
What's the point: A big question during the Trump presidency was whether anything could actually move the public opinion needle. It turns out that the insurrection at the US Capitol last week did exactly that.
The result is that Trump's final first term approval rating looks to be the lowest on record dating back since scientific polling began.

It means Trump will be the first president in the polling era to end his first term with an approval of below 40%, the first with a disapproval rating north of 50% and the first with a negative net (approval - disapproval) rating.

[Canuck]

Trump wants a big military send off on the morning of the 20th while he can still use Airforce 1. He wants the whole deal including a 21 gun salute. Seems if he wants a military send off, all he has to do is look out the car window as they drive him and Melania from the White House to the airport.

[KEN W]

Yes.....He could see 25,000 troops, also DC cops, FBI, and Secret Service.

I don't care if he has 21 gun salute, Red Carpet, and jets flying over....just so he isn't in the White House by noon.

[huntin1]

Worst president ever.


A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that President Donald Trump's approval rating stands at 33%, while his disapproval is at 60%.

An average of recent polls finds Trump with a 38% approval rating and 59% disapproval rating.
What's the point: A big question during the Trump presidency was whether anything could actually move the public opinion needle. It turns out that the insurrection at the US Capitol last week did exactly that.
The result is that Trump's final first term approval rating looks to be the lowest on record dating back since scientific polling began.

It means Trump will be the first president in the polling era to end his first term with an approval of below 40%, the first with a disapproval rating north of 50% and the first with a negative net (approval - disapproval) rating.

And Rasmussen has him at 48% approve, 52% disapprove

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... ex_history

One of the first things I learned in college statistics is that if you are willing to be dishonest you can make your poll show anything you want.

[Plainsman]

Trump's final first term approval rating looks to be the lowest on record dating back since scientific polling began

Well Ken you are blindly loyal Ill give you that. Like a woman whos husband beats her and she believes him every time he says it will not happen again. Start reading a few more sources and cherry picking. Many of the democrats position as of late is terrible. What do you think of so many moving towards socislism. There are many that now openly sdmit it and most would chsnge to socialism but still deny it. The sad thing is so would many of the lying republicans. I wasnt that angry when you called them repugnicans, it was more disappointing that you thought you angered me. Why do you support the democrats.