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Protests at the Capital....

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#1 ·
Has anyone noticed how many Republican Representatives are acting right now with people breaking into Congress and classes with police....

THEY ARE DENOUNCING ALL OF THIS.

How come this didn't happen from the Democratic Representatives with Antifa, BLM, the riots this summer, etc???? Honestly look how they are handling things and denouncing the extreme or "fringe" people. It is a big difference. :poke: :poke: :poke:

I am again all for peaceful protests but once you break a law... you should get punished! :bop:

But just want to show the difference on how some of our political leaders act. Some remain silent and dont denounce the civil discourse.... while others try to stamp it out ASAP.
 
#27 ·
Lets take politics out of this if people are capable.

Lets say there is opposing views on shooting a handgun. One group says you hold your gun vertical and another group says you hold it horizontal. You go to a rally to support the vertical group and another unknown group pushes their way through the crowd calling you a nazi and spitting on you. Are these fellow vertical shooters or are they infiltrating horizontal shooters? Gee I don't know, I'm dumber than a stump, what do you think?
 
#28 ·
Chuck Smith said:
Huntn....

Here is a picture out there. Again not saying that this individual in the picture cant be both for BLM and Trump. Or that he was even violent at any of the rallies... but just showing you some "common" things.... One photo is at a BLM protest... the other is at Capital hill. Again he has every right to be at the same. But I thought all Trump supporters are NAZI's....

Also... dont know how accurate. But again I will wait and see what comes of all of this and any evidence that might come forward.
The picture is of a man identified as Jake Angeli or otherwise known as Q-anon shaman. He has interview online, is a known trump supporter and has been photographed at numerous Trump rallies holding a Q sent me sign.

Even the q crowd is running from this guy putting out claims he is antifa and married to pelosi's daughter.
 
#29 ·
southdakbearfan said:
Chuck Smith said:
Huntn....

Here is a picture out there. Again not saying that this individual in the picture cant be both for BLM and Trump. Or that he was even violent at any of the rallies... but just showing you some "common" things.... One photo is at a BLM protest... the other is at Capital hill. Again he has every right to be at the same. But I thought all Trump supporters are NAZI's....

Also... dont know how accurate. But again I will wait and see what comes of all of this and any evidence that might come forward.
The picture is of a man identified as Jake Angeli or otherwise known as Q-anon shaman. He has interview online, is a known trump supporter and has been photographed at numerous Trump rallies holding a Q sent me sign.
Q went to support BLM?????????????????? You never know what's going on in todays world. You even run into people who say they are republican, but hate Trump. You hear people say they support Trump then purposely say something stupid. Deception runs rampant in our world.

Edit: I googled the name you posted. Whatever he really is one thing is certain he is an idiot.
 
#30 ·
Chuck that picture you posted: it's not only the attire the man is wearing it's the same face. This clearly is not a Trump supporter it's a Trump hater. The picture becomes more clear with that photo and from the farmer at Devils Lake who was there. I hope with these things our fellow conservatives at least give this more thought before judging.
Plainsman... and others.

I dont know if this guy in the hat and what not was at the BLM as an "anti" protester or was he right in the middle of the BLM protest in AZ. He can be for BLM and a Trump Supporter. Contrary to what the Media and Many Dem's want you to think. But it can happen and does. But what is needed to be found out is if this guy is a "radical" one way or another. What I mean is... .is he a BLM radical that hates Trump but yet wanted to go cause trouble.

BTW... the same guy is in a picture with another guy with a communism tattoo on his had. I will repost it below. But how many Trump supporters do you think have communism tattoos? I will also say I dont know if the photo has been photo shopped or altered in anyway. Just something that is out there online..... Guy in yellow has the communism tattoo.
 

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#31 ·
Plainsman said:
southdakbearfan said:
Chuck Smith said:
Huntn....

Here is a picture out there. Again not saying that this individual in the picture cant be both for BLM and Trump. Or that he was even violent at any of the rallies... but just showing you some "common" things.... One photo is at a BLM protest... the other is at Capital hill. Again he has every right to be at the same. But I thought all Trump supporters are NAZI's....

Also... dont know how accurate. But again I will wait and see what comes of all of this and any evidence that might come forward.
The picture is of a man identified as Jake Angeli or otherwise known as Q-anon shaman. He has interview online, is a known trump supporter and has been photographed at numerous Trump rallies holding a Q sent me sign.
Q went to support BLM??????????????????
No. That's why it's false he is a member or supporter of antifa. This guy is 100% anti-antifa/BLM. It's just a falsified image.

He's a nut bag and has supported trump.
 
#32 ·
The picture is of a man identified as Jake Angeli or otherwise known as Q-anon shaman. He has interview online, is a known trump supporter and has been photographed at numerous Trump rallies holding a Q sent me sign.

Even the q crowd is running from this guy putting out claims he is antifa and married to pelosi's daughter.
Like I stated.... didn't know if he was an "antiprotester" at the BLM rally... or even he could support BLM. Dont know. But just showing you things out there that need some answers is all.

How about the guy with the communist tattoo on his hand? Next to the Shaman.... Also the guy on the other side of the shaman who seems to have a press badge on. So did these guys "storm" or were they let in because of credentials?

But anyways.... the media always wants to show the "whackos" (or people dressed a certain way) who are at these protests. Just to push a narrative. Yes this goes for people at BLM, ANTIFA, MAGA, etc. At any rally they want to show people who are extreme because it makes for a story and pushes a narrative. They don't go to the plan clothed person who is calm and just there showing support for a cause (any cause).... they want the clown in a costume, foaming at the mouth and screaming at the top of their lungs, and being aggressive in speech or actions. Then they pin that person as how the whole group is. YES THIS GOES FOR ALL PROTESTS... BLM, ANTIFA, MAGA, PETA, 2A Rights Groups, NRA, ETC. People if you cant see how the media plays a huge roll in all of this you are blind. :bop:
 
#33 ·
No. That's why it's false he is a member or supporter of antifa. This guy is 100% anti-antifa/BLM. It's just a falsified image.

He's a nut bag and has supported trump.
The image isn't false.... they just didn't tell the whole truth....ie: Was he at the BLM as a counter protest? That is what was the unknown.... but the fact that he was at both is Truth. See how people try to push a narrative. Again... you read my post... I said... these things... i said... was he there as a counter protester... was he there supporting BLM... and yes Trump supporters can also support BLM... even though the media wants to make you think different. :poke: :thumb: Just like Trump supporters can also not support the police. :beer:
 
#34 ·
No. That's why it's false he is a member or supporter of antifa. This guy is 100% anti-antifa/BLM. It's just a falsified image.

He's a nut bag and has supported trump.
The old cliche with friends like that you don't need enemies comes to mind. Still I wonder about this guy. I could easily say I support Biden and go raise havoc. As much as I dislike BLM do you remember the video of the masked guy showing up with a hammer and walking down the street breaking every window and then just disappearing around the corner while the crowd started looting? I hate to say it, but I think that was a BLM hater. Unfortunately your and my side doesn't have all angels. Also Q which I know little about are going to have people making them look stupid on purpose. Same with liberal groups. Unfortunately not everyone is as they appear.

The image isn't false.... they just didn't tell the whole truth
The little I know about Q is that I think they are conservative. I see that hammer and sickle tattoo and can't in my wildest imagination see a Trump supporter and a communist standing together protesting anything. This has to trip some questioning triggers in anyone with a half open mind. Remember Trump saying we will never have socialism on my watch? Well communism is only the uglier sister of socialism.

In today's world people lie without a thought. Integrity is a casualty. Especially with the democrat part which are practiced liars. In todays world if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's probably a pigeon.
 
#35 ·
Look at the two pictures I am posting.....

They are from the NYT's.... if you dont think the media is a problem look at it. In one article it states that one movement has "room for rage" and is breaking into federal buildings on a nightly basis, setting fires, throwing things at police, etc... and THE NYT's JUSTIFIES THIS. Then read the headline from today..... :puke: Again... how is one OK and the other one NOT?
 

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#36 ·
I will post this picture again....

You blame Trump for what happened yesterday.... But wont blame other elected officials for inciting protests, aggression, and violence...... AND YES THOSE ARE QUOTES THAT THESE PEOPLE SAID. If you want to take a snippet of something Trump said you should also be able to take a snippet of what these people said. Oh yeah.... who was the one on National TV during a National Address tore up a speech? Just saying if you want to blame Trump... you also need to blame these people.
 

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#38 ·
Chuck Smith said:
I will post this picture again....

You blame Trump for what happened yesterday.... But wont blame other elected officials for inciting protests, aggression, and violence...... AND YES THOSE ARE QUOTES THAT THESE PEOPLE SAID. If you want to take a snippet of something Trump said you should also be able to take a snippet of what these people said. Oh yeah.... who was the one on National TV during a National Address tore up a speech? Just saying if you want to blame Trump... you also need to blame these people.
I do.

Like I said both instances those that fanned the flames are guilty.
 
#40 ·
I am listening to many callers on Rush Limbaugh thst were at the rally. By the way it doesnt look like Rush has many days left so listen while he is still alive. Anyway. this last guy said a fellow with a black hoody and a black face mask came up and crouched behind him and his friend then ignited a flare and threw it at the cops. He said everything was peaceful until a group of violent people showed up.
 
#41 ·
Plainsman said:
I am listening to many callers on Rush Limbaugh thst were at the rally. By the way it doesnt look like Rush has many days left so listen while he is still alive. Anyway. this last guy said a fellow with a black hoody and a black face mask came up and crouched behind him and his friend then ignited a flare and threw it at the cops. He said everything was peaceful until a group of violent people showed up.
That's probably the way most of these things start out. I am sure at many of the protests that turned into riots over the summer it was a small, violent, percentage committing most of the atrocities.

And I still go back to those that fan the flames with their rhetoric are just as if not more guilty than those lighting the fuse.
 
#42 ·
I do.

Like I said both instances those that fanned the flames are guilty.
Good... that is a starting point.

Now do you blame the media (ALL MEDIA) about stoking the flames. They have for 4 years called anyone who supports Trump a Racist, Nazi, Deplorable, Uneducated, traitors, liars, etc. THis can also be said about what some say about Dem's and calling them Communists, Socialists, baby killers, etc.

Not everyone fits the shoe that the media wants to portray. Not all Dem's believe in abortion.... not all dem's believe in socialism... etc.

But the media kept driving things and saying these things.... they flamed just as much as others. :bop:
 
#43 ·
Actually.... listen to how the media is going off right now....

Honestly... do you think they are at all helping the situation???

I remember during the BLM and ANTIFA protests some on FOX said that it is a few bad actors that are doing the most damage...and also they talked about how elected officials needed to come out and condemn them... yet they didn't.

But just wait and keep watching... I hope I am wrong. But I dont see the media at all letting up and things could get worse... I hope not... but just wait. The more the media calls people uneducated, racist, nazi, facists, etc. People will explode.

Talked with alot of friends yesterday about what went down.... they were ****** off how the media was going off on the subject. They said they were getting upset and could see why all of this happened.

Now also look how Twitter and other Social media outlets are purging followers of conservatives.... hmmmm.

Remember when I talked about how or who controls the media or how they lean politically.... :poke:
 
#44 ·
Time for Vice President Pence to walk into the oval office and say

"Mr President it's over for you. Get on Air Force 1 and fly to Mira Lago and play golf for the next 2 weeks. I will take care of the government until President elect Biden takes over."

I do not trust what this wacko can still do in the next 2 weeks.
 
#45 ·
KEN W said:
NO WAY......those were far right Trump supporters. You seem to be blinded by your misguided support for a guy who needs to be indicted for inciting a riot. Thank God we only have to live with this WACKO for 2 more weeks. If we are lucky he will be removed from office before then.

Trump and his sons and the wacko Giuliani telling the crowd to go into combat mode and then march to the Capital should all be indicted for inciting a riot. Enough is enough.
Really Ken? Then explain this guy.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...the-capitol-n2582766

Utah Man With a History of Organizing Violent Antifa, BLM Protests, Was Inside the Capitol

A young man named John Sullivan was there. He's from Utah and the founder of "Insurgence USA," which is a group dedicated to "racial justice and police reform." According to numerous news reports, he has a history of organizing leftist protests and identifies with Black Lives Matter.

Over the summer, Sullivan was arrested after organizing a violent riot in Utah that ended with a shooting. One of the host groups was the Salt Lake Antifascist [Antifa] Coalition.

At the U.S. Capitol, Sullivan was standing next to Trump supporter Ashli Babbitt when she was shot and killed by a police officer. In fact, he filmed it.

KUTV has confirmed a Utah man involved in violent protests in Utah this Spring was in D.C & stormed the Capitol amid violent protests.
@JimSpiewak
spoke to him. The story on 2 News at 10. His most often used hashtags: #blm #antifa #burn #****thesystem #abolishthepolice #****trump

On two of his Twitter feeds, you'll find retweets of footage from Black Lives Matter riots. His profile photo advertises a planned anti-Trump rally on January 6. His Instagram page, where additional footage of previous riots and protests was posted, is no longer available. He also retweeted an Antifa page.
He is an organizer. It is believed that he never goes anywhere with less than 30-40 followers, so if he was there, you can bet there were more.

I think that you are blinded by an unreasonable hatred for one man. Question is, are you like the Democrats in Washington, so consumed by your hatred that you are willing to destroy this democracy just to be rid of him? Because they most assuredly are willing to do just that.
 
#46 ·
Explain about the Proud Boys all over the riot. Including that yahoo in the Native American outfit with a helmet with horns.

I am not blinded at all.....it's the Trump buddies who can't see what most of us see....thank God he only has 2 weeks to gi at the most.
 
#49 ·
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KEN W said:
Picking out the ones with the red hats was easy. And not all of them had red hats.
Oh my please tell me your not as simple as the old cowboy movies where the guy with the black hat was always the bad guy and the guy with the white hat was always the good guy. You should apply for a job with the CIA or some organization like that. They dont have anyone with the skills to spot bad guys like you do. You should call them and tell them to look for red hats. Its a good thing the bad guys were not smart enough to wear blue hats right? Do you think adults these days are smart enough to wear clothing that makes them look ----- no they are not smart enough to fool you. I should know better. :poke: :rollin: I dont know if I should laugh or cry.

Ken I think back to your posts during the impeachment. I wasnt impressed with your jumping to conclusions. Now you double down. Im simply trmying to shock you into slowing down and giving things a little more time to play out and think of all the possible scenarios. You have to admit judging situation by hat color was crazy funny.

Seriously Ken there are a lot of scammers out there looking for victims. They see that hat post they will put on a democrst sticker. show up at your door, and sell you a box of horse dung for $1800 ounce gold.
 
#50 ·
If there was more than 13 days left in the presidency I think he would be gone via the 25th.

Look at all the people leaving the administration, look at the former cabinet members calling him out, look at the former people in high places, all that trump brought in calling him out. Former presidents, secretaries of state, attorney generals, ambassadors, republican and democrats are all agreeing on this episode. Hell even Mitch and Lindsey have had enough of his crap.

I am sure there were some agitators, no doubt, just like I am sure there were some fringe trump fans agitating the BLM protests as well. It still doesn't excuse those that fanned the flames in either instance.

The republican party has always been better than this, until trump. The win at all costs regardless of the means has cost them dearly and I fear it will be a long lasting defeat unless things change.
 
#51 ·
Because there is no loyalty and the media, ANTIFA , and democrats fooled a large majority of the public. You dont like Trump. but if your going to try find a good guy in DC your going to die of old age looking. They are all for power, money, and themselves. Its only a matter of bad, worse, and worst people. At least Trump did many good things while he was in. That angers them because they all play off one another. Democrat snd republican make promises they dont keep. Trump did and that rocks the swamp. What country are you a citizen of, and what flag do you swear an allegiance to? If its America is there anything wrong with America first?

PS. I wish this stinking phone would give me a comma and not a period when I click comma. :******:
 
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