My 44 Mag development topic (pics)

[Plainsman]

Norseman I am headed out on a wolf hunt in ten days. If Im over this pnemonia. Anyway there has been four grizx attacks where I want to hunt. some of the area has been closed. I have a can of bear spray, and I'll try hunt where there is the least danger, but if they make it through the spray I'm not willing to die for a bear. I loaded my S&W 4r mag with my cast 310 gr with 21 gr of H110. I'm sure a little common sense will work better than spray or 44 mag.

[southdakbearfan]

Be Safe

[The Norseman]

Well I decided to Reload two 44Rem Mag
cases. Here's what I did.

For Range Testing 44 Magnum reload is;
240gr Lead Round Nose Flat Point Oregon
Trail Laser Cast bullet.
8.0grs Alliant Power Pistol. (44Spl load)
CCI LP #300 primer
Case is 44Mag Starline.
Crimp is what I call medium roll crimp.
FPS should be approximately 850.
Bullets tumbled lube with Ben's Liquid Lube,
for Lead free barrel performance.

I hoping the new reload will be similar to
my current, go to, plinking reload of
5.6grs Alliant Red Dot. FPS approximately 825.

Observations; Power Pistol is a very fine grain
Powder. It should meter very well in a Powder
Lever Throw Measure. Did not smell toxic.
8.0grs would reload 875 Cartridges (7000grs/lbs
/ 8.0grs = 875). Will be able to see a double
charge, I look at each reloaded Batch/Cartridge
with flashlight.

As you can see in the pictures, Power Pistol
is very fine grain.

Thank you for reading

[Sasha and Abby]

never used that powder... thanks for the suggestion...

[The Norseman]

I got to Range Test my two Alliant Power Pistol. reloads.
Both Test Fired just fine. Primers are not flat, actually
no difference then other powders I use for reloading.

Other Observations; cartridges not as much soot on side
(maybe better case to charge hole seal).
Cases came out of cylinder charge holes easy.
No notable difference in flash. Bang didn't appear any different.
Appeared first round accurate, close to each other at 12 o'clock,
maybe a little high than usual Red Dot reload.

I will have to try some more Alliant Power Pistol reloads.
Just looks like another Good Powder for reloading with.

Range Tested with S&W 629 P.C. 44Mag 6"Bbl. in posts above.

Thank you for reading my post.

Picture shows Primers. Bottom: the fired 8.0grs Alliant Power
Pistol. Top: 5.6grs of Alliant Red Dot (usual plinking reload).

R.T. Power Pistol 8grs CCI LP not flat in 44Mag

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[The Norseman]

Well I got bored and decided to try A.P.P. again so
I've reloaded my last 8 pre-primed Starline Cases.

This time I reloaded 4 at 7.7grs and 4 at 7.8grs. I just
picked these amounts because they still fill the Cases
what I think is Ok.

Hopefully I can try them out soon.

Thanks for reading

[Plainsman]

Power Pistol Powder from what I have researched is for moderate power loadings,
very similar to Alliant Unique powder, but easier to run through a Powder Measure.
Supposedly for the likes of the 9MM, 40S&W, 45ACP, 10MM (for Auto's).

I have used Power Pistol in my 45 auto. In a Kimber 1911 and a Springfield XD. I still use some for the Springfield, but converted the Kimber to a 45 Super.

My plinking load in my 44 mag is 9gr Unique with a 240gr cast. I had used 2400 for my hotter cast loads, but recently switched to H110.

[The Norseman]

Well I finally got to Range Test my reloads of
Alliant Power Pistol; 7.7grs and 7.8grs.

This time I did notice more Flash at the Muzzle
Gas Ports on my S&W Lite Hunter, as compared
to the Alliant Red Dot reload.

As far as a "Louder Bang" I couldn't tell.

Accuracy appeared the same as my Red Dot
reload.

In My Opinion Alliant Power Pistol is just another
good Powder for Reload'n.

Thank you for reading my post.

[The Norseman]

Shot my S&W Mountain Gun Cabela's Outfitter Series
44Rem Mag (post above) the other day. It is always
in my Range Bag rotation.

When I do my part, it appears to be accurate with
my Lead RNFP plinking reload posted above. That
Mountain Gun is just Reliable and Enjoyable to shoot.
The only negative comment is, it is very unforgiving
at longer distances with that 4" Barrel.

Thanks for read'n!

[The Norseman]

Got these on the Cheap the other day. Hard to find data on about it.

Powders I have on hand, use and like are; Bullseye, Unique,
American Select, Power Pistol, and Long Shot (not much
info out there on this one), and Trail Boss.

Leaning on using Good Old Reliable Unique.

[The Norseman]

Well finally I got around to reloading 3 for Test Fire.

225gr FTX 44cal .430dia Hornady #44105/8.0grs
Alliant Unique/CCI #300 LP/Federal Nickel Brass/
COL: 1.648"/800fps?
Brass trimmed to 1.255" per Hornady.
Crimp is just a light Roll Crimp.

My Bullet Seating die doesn't have a Seat the shape of the
Bullet, so I carefully applied pressure to Seat the Bullet. It
worked, but is not the best for the Flex Tip.

Cartridge fits into Cylinder with plenty of room up front (seen in
pic.) I also tried it in my Mountain Gun, fit is the same, basically
up to the bottom of Chamfered Cylinder line, envisioning it if
you could see through the Cylinder.

Thanks for reading my Post.

FTX

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[southdakbearfan]

Sweet looking.

[The Norseman]

I shot my 3 reloads. Pretty uneventful. Very pleasant to shoot,
Primers no where near Flat. Extraction from the Charge Holes
did not slide out freely, but came out with very little resistance.
Very clean burning.

Point of impact basically the same as my Hunting Reload of 240gr
Lead Semi Wad Cutter bullet/8.5grs Unique.

I'm happy so far with this Reload. I might increase the Powder Charge,
but I'm going to reload, shoot a few more, and then determine that.

Unique

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[Plainsman]

Point of impact basically the same as my Hunting Reload of 240gr
Lead Semi Wad Cutter bullet/8.5grs Unique.

I cast a 250 gr cowboy action bullet which is a round nose flat point. 9 gr of Unique is my cottontail load. I shoot that bullet for about everything now. I load 24 gr of H110 for larger game. For defense hunting in the mountains I cast a 310 gr round nose flat point bullet and push it to 1250 fps out of my 4 inch barrel. It spanks your hand when you pull the trigger. That 310 gr bullet is from a cheap Lee mould, but it's my most accurate bullet at 100 yards.

[The Norseman]

My Novelty reload of the FTX I decided to just stay at 8.0grs Unique.

225gr FTX 44cal .430dia Hornady #44105/8.0grs
Alliant Unique/CCI #300 LP/Federal Nickel Brass/
COL: 1.648"/800fps?
Brass trimmed to 1.255" per Hornady.
Crimp is just a light Roll Crimp.

With a very clean Cylinder on my Revolver I still had a little resistance.

Now I'd like to try this Reload on some Coyotes.

Thanks you for reading this Post.

[Sasha and Abby]

I feel sorry for the yote...

[Plainsman]

My Novelty reload of the FTX I decided to just stay at 8.0grs Unique.

225gr FTX 44cal .430dia Hornady #44105/8.0grs
Alliant Unique/CCI #300 LP/Federal Nickel Brass/
COL: 1.648"/800fps?
Brass trimmed to 1.255" per Hornady.
Crimp is just a light Roll Crimp.

With a very clean Cylinder on my Revolver I still had a little resistance.

Now I'd like to try this Reload on some Coyotes.

Thanks you for reading this Post.

Have you chronographed that load? I shoot 9gr of Unique with a 240gr cast bullet and get 1054fps out of a 4 inch barrel. I suppose the jacketed is some slower and one grain is more than 10% . I need to go chronograph my own cast 250gr one of these days. You can shoot hundreds of rounds in a Smith at those velocities and it will show little or no leading. I have pumped a couple thousand rounds of lead through both of mine and only removed lead a couple of times in each one. In the past I used the Lewis Lead Remover, but the Chore Boy type is very easy. I can't find the brass stuff, but both of my Smiths are stainless and they tell me the silver Chore Boy is safe.
I bought the Lewis Lead Remover back in the 1980's when I had a Super Blackhawk, a Redhawk, and a Super Redhawk. Those things leaded up like someone had taken a soldering iron to the bore. I had to remove lead every 50 rounds. I didn't own any of those guns more than a couple of months. The Security Six I had in 357 mag was the same way. I bought a custom Colt Python with a little use one time. I returned it the next day, and got my Smith back.

[The Norseman]

Unfortunately I have not had a chance to Chronograph the FTX reload yet.
I am suspecting FPS is 800fps. Good thought though, I do have some other
Reloads to Chronograph too.

As far as Leading my Barrel, if anything it should help clean the Lead
out, LOL. Up above in this Thread I mention that I use Lee Alox
and Johnson Liquid Floor Wax to eliminate Lead.

The Original Copper Chore Boy only, wrapped around a Brass Cleaning Brush
really does work great if needed or not needed to remove shooting residue.

I've only used my Lewis Lead Remover to clean Revolver Forcing Cones,
this is a must (not too many shooters know this), for Revolver accuracy!

Thanks you for reading this Post.