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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Avery Full Body Question?
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Just out of couriosity, for those of you who run Avery Full Bodys snows. How long does it take you to set your rig once all the decoys are in the field? Lets say around 500 decoys with 4 guys? We were having a debate with in our group and we are all trying to find out.

I am guessing 3 hours?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject:
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Well it depends how much we had to drink the night before... Lack of motivation days would probably be about 2.5 to 3 hours. If we are moving pretty good it is cut down to about 1.5 hours and that includes 1 guy on the wheeler full time getting decoys, stake, blinds, guns, shelld, callers.

Having "new" guys hunt with you sucks because they dont know the routine but it deffinetly gets quicker everytime you set up...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject:
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3 hours give or take a few
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject:
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Do you guys ever set the spread the night before?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject:
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For us, it takes 4 guys 1.5 hours max to set out my 30 dz. That includes, digging in/stubbling blinds, e-callers, etc. That is, of course, driving in. Having to use the wheeler adds on an additional 30-45 minutes. This is when we are motivated and working in high gear. If we are exhausted and not really motivated it can take a lot longer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject:
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with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject:
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Does that include the time it takes to get them all out there with the 4 wheelers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject:
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no if we fourwheeler out it takes about 2.5 hours unless its a real long 4 wheeler ride
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject:
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goosehunter21 wrote:
with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.


I would like to see your group of 4 set 500 full bodys in the time it takes to set 500 sillosocks........ Thats funny though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject:
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with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

we do it here all the time in about the same time.....1 guy sets the stakes and tghe others put the decoys on there stakes.....its nice t hunt with the same guys all the time it gets easy after a few times......the more you do it the better you get.I don't know if its as fast as silosocks but it does'nt take 3 hours
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject:
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We used to run 500 FB's and it took us on average about 2 hours to set the spread with 4 guys. Now we run silosocks and can set close to 700 in about 45 minutes and our kill numbers have gone up as well. It was a no brainer!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject:
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aboller wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.


I would like to see your group of 4 set 500 full bodys in the time it takes to set 500 sillosocks........ Thats funny though.


I hunt with the same guys for the most part every time and in the last 3 years we have prob set it close to 175 times...after a while everyone knows what to do and it goes up pretty fast
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject:
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Jeff Zierden wrote:
We used to run 500 FB's and it took us on average about 2 hours to set the spread with 4 guys. Now we run silosocks and can set close to 700 in about 45 minutes and our kill numbers have gone up as well. It was a no brainer!


Well played.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject:
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with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.



Keep telling yourself that...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject:
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with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.


I can attest to that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject:
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Marlin40 wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.



Keep telling yourself that...


I don't understand whats funny about it....just cuz it takes you twice that time to set your sock spread doesn't mean we cant get our spread set faster...I have hunted with alot of guys on the site and im sure they could tell you the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject:
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The logistics of one guy setting a stake and one guy placing a full body, doesn't seem to add up with being able to keep up setting a sock spread. I have both, so I am not bias towards either. When we run our fullbodies we do the same thing with one guy setting stakes the other setting decoys. There is no way possible you can set the same numbers of decoys in the same amount of time, not even close.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject:
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Well said. It is basic math. I am sure many of you can set a full body spread very effiently however it is crazy to think that it can be set as fast or faster than a sillosock spread.
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Somebody on here said it... with 4 people having one guy setting up stakes, the others following around putting decoys on the stakes. No way in hades is this faster!!! Just use a little common sense here, if each "stake" you are putting out is a whole decoy and everybody is putting them out instead of just one, how can it be as fast or faster??? And this isn't even counting getting the sob's out there in the first place. I think someone's been puffin' a little too much...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject:
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In the original topic he said if all the decoys are already in the field, so once all the decoys are in the field we quickly throw them out of the bags on to the ground in whatever formation we decided to run....prob takes 20 min, then we go back and stake them all which takes 20-30 min on average. so there you have it in an hour or less thats how to get it done...if it is extremely muddy it will take longer because then we don't throw them out of the bags we then have one guy set stakes and one guy put them on
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject:
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About 1.5 hours including the blinds with four guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject:
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Marlin40 wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.



Keep telling yourself that...


i've been with him when he's done it so i don't see whats not to believe...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject:
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Last year we paid four high school kids to pick up the spread and set it up a couple of times the night before. We guide and move almost daily and there just isn't enough hours in the day. This was a pretty good option that we will utilize a bunch this year. We draw them a map on how we want them set up and it worked great. And all it cost us was $100 a set!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject:
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echoXLT wrote:
Somebody on here said it... with 4 people having one guy setting up stakes, the others following around putting decoys on the stakes. No way in hades is this faster!!! Just use a little common sense here, if each "stake" you are putting out is a whole decoy and everybody is putting them out instead of just one, how can it be as fast or faster??? And this isn't even counting getting the sob's out there in the first place. I think someone's been puffin' a little too much...


that was me and thats how we do it ....Why would I lie about it.....it makea no difference to me if you believe me or not
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if you guys are comparing 400 to 500 FB spreads to 800 to 1000 SS spreads I can see how it might be close to the same amount of time. but it was 500 FB to 500 ss there is no way it is the same. By myself i can set close to 500 ss in an hour. That would be 1 every 14 seconds
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not sure who you people are tryin to fool... Drinking the Koolaid
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject:
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goosehunter21 wrote:
it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

bullsh*t
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject:
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this past weekend we set 180 averys and 140 bigfoot snows and a pile of sillosocks. There is no posible way you can set fb's as fast as socks, not even one piece dekes like the foots. You can carry maybe 7 fb's at once vs. 50 socks without returning to the pile of dekes to grab more. Do the math.
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aboller wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

bullsh*t


Get Fucked
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goosehunter21 wrote:
aboller wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

bullsh*t


Get Fucked




Whoa
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject:
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goosehunter21 wrote:
aboller wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

bullsh*t


Get Fucked




Whoa
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Haha, looks like someone dosent like to be proved wrong.
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Talked with a couple friends of mine who set up 250 up in Canada this year three guys.....one ecaller and 3 blinds. They said it took them 1.5 - 2 hours.

Also I would have to agree that math alone you can't put up a silo sock, deadly, NW or any decoy with a stake attached the same as a stake and then place the decoy on. The two step process of the full body just has to take longer.....it is physics and math.

I am not calling anyone a liar. But it does not add up.

Look at it like this.....one guy or even two putting out stakes and two guys or 3 guys placing decoys. How can that be faster than 4 guys placing decoys. It just is not possible.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject:
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aboller wrote:
goosehunter21 wrote:
it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.

bullsh*t


Get Fucked


Geez, Whats the deal, is your man thong riding up again! Your a little to serious tiger, It's just decoys! But then again I am sure you are under 14 so I guess it is expected.
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HaHa If you only knew aboller....No one on here has proved me wrong. I just set it up this morning it to 58 min to set up 550 fullbodies and all of our fliers. You guys that love your socks go for it be like 95 percent of the rest of all snow goose hunters. When you hunt as much as we do you become very efficient on setting them. Think what you want, but when its all said and done yes it is possible to set 500 fullbodies in an hour!!!
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HaHa If you only knew aboller....No one on here has proved me wrong. I just set it up this morning it to 58 min to set up 550 fullbodies and all of our fliers. You guys that love your socks go for it be like 95 percent of the rest of all snow goose hunters. When you hunt as much as we do you become very efficient on setting them. Think what you want, but when its all said and done yes it is possible to set 500 fullbodies in an hour!!!


How would someone prove you wrong?
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HaHa If you only knew aboller....No one on here has proved me wrong. I just set it up this morning it to 58 min to set up 550 fullbodies and all of our fliers. You guys that love your socks go for it be like 95 percent of the rest of all snow goose hunters. When you hunt as much as we do you become very efficient on setting them. Think what you want, but when its all said and done yes it is possible to set 500 fullbodies in an hour!!!




How many guys? How did the shoot go?
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I believe goosehunter21's group can put up the spread in an hour.

There really isn't an argument about whether the same # of SS's could be put up faster though.
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with 4 guys we can set 500 in about 45min-1hr...it goes just as fast as sock when everyone is on the same page.



It isn't??
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