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Postby Pafox » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:33 pm

What type of breed of dogs would be best for hunting coyotes?
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Postby cut'em » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:09 pm

Do you really hunt coyotes with a dog? I can't imagine sending a small number of dogs out around my area to run coyotes, the yotes would have a feild day with them probably kill your dogs. Guys around here put out road killed deer then hunt over that, they get packs of from 3 to 8 coyotes at a time coming in I'd think if they felt threatened by the dog or dogs they'd attack. And a 50 lb. male coyote can do some damage. interesting topic!
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Postby Blacktail » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:57 pm

Blackmouth Cur is a great coyote dog.
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Postby labkennel » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:12 pm

We used to hunt them with greyhounds and irish wolfhounds. The greyhounds would be the catch dogs and the wolfhounds would be the kill dog. I've seen 2 dogs kill a good sized male coyote before.
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Postby thunderhead » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:24 pm

Grey hounds are very commonly used to run coyotes.
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Postby cooner_jeff » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:48 pm

hunted with a bunch of guys with their hounds last weekend sat. they hunted with running walker hounds. one guy had a mtn cur, another had a black and tan. there were probably probably 15 hounds total. as many as a dozen in a chase, sometimes one dog by himself.
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Postby Alex » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:24 pm

I think grey hounds are the best bet.
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Postby always_outdoors » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:18 pm

The animal control specialists with the USDA out of the Steele/Dawson area has two dogs that he uses to take care of coyotes. I know they were not greyhounds, but some sort of larger hound dog.

He told me stories of how he uses them for coyotes and how they run them down and kill them.

The guy lives in Dawson, ND. Can't remember his name, but a great guy. I called back when I lived in Napoleon to take care of pests that seem to get near chicken coops and the occasional racoon in the attic.

I would try the USDA department in Bismarck and see if they can get you his name.
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Postby xdeano » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:09 pm

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The guy in Dawson, has moved on to another job.

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Postby SniperPride » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:42 am

Rhodesian Ridgeback for the win :wink:
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Postby always_outdoors » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:49 am

xdeano: thanks for the help x
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Postby Young'in » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:49 am

http://www.nitro.20m.com/ you can find what you need here.
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Postby xdeano » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:27 pm

Here is a pic
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Postby MTYoteHtr » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:52 am

There is a video out called Dogging Coyotes where the use a Mtn Cur to lure coyotes back into shooting range. Don Laubach has some footage in his video called COYOTE Action, The Pursuit. www.elkinc.com

Merv Griswold raises these dogs for sale and lives in Gillette, WY. I don't Merv's number, but Don maybe able to help. His email is elkinc@mcn.net

Merv trains the dogs to return to the squeaker and never hunts with dogs in the spring when the coyotes have young pups. The coyotes are much more aggressive and gang up on the dogs.
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Postby fishunt » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:23 pm

sound exicting :wink:
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Postby xdeano » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:55 pm

MRyothtr,

It is exciting.

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Postby Jarkko » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:07 pm

Hello i am Jarkko and i`m from Finland and i have one triggerfoxhound . We have in Finland maybe 200 americanfoxhound. We would like to have new hounds in here. If you know some one who like to sold pupies ,send me e-mail adress thank you . :roll: :run:
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Postby griffman » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:36 am

xdeano- Cool looking pic!

Don't you guys worry about mange though? I don't let my dog anywhere near them!
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Postby xdeano » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:59 pm

thanks,
Yeah there are some times that i question the whole mange thing, but the dog gets regular baths. My wife is a Vet Tech, so she looks the dog over every now and again. All dogs have mange when they are born, the reason why you don't see it is because their immune system fights it off, it is often seen on puppies. There is another type of mange called demodex mange, not quite as harsh as sarcoptic.

http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/dem.html

I have heard of coyotes having mange and eating on a dead cow that had a pore on treatment of Ivermectin, and then they coyote coming out of mange and growing its hair back and living a full life until it catches a stray bullet :)
Ivermectin can also be use on dogs if they get mange. ask your vet though.
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Postby griffman » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:19 pm

xdeano wrote:I have heard of coyotes having mange and eating on a dead cow that had a pore on treatment of Ivermectin, and then they coyote coming out of mange and growing its hair back and living a full life until it catches a stray bullet :)
Ivermectin can also be use on dogs if they get mange. ask your vet though.
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Thats very interesting. Ivermectin---it's not just for heartworm anymore? I wonder how effective the average dose in the heartworm med is against mange? I've never really researched mange. I've always thought once a dog aquires it, many times it'll be fatal.
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Postby xdeano » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:52 pm

I'm not sure what kind of a dose that they would have to have, but it can't be much more than the normal dose. not really sure, i'll ask the vet the next time i'm at my wifes work. I think that ivermec is mainly for paracites in the gut and intestines. But there is a different mixture for heart worm if i remember right.
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Postby xdeano » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:14 pm

Well here is what i found out about Ivermec. A cow gets about 250mg, if i remember right. so a dog would have to injest .3mg/kg (2.2lbs). so not very much at all. easly done by a hungry coyote. I guess it works great on Sarcoptic but not so well on demodex. don't quote me on any of this, ask a vet if your dog gets mange. :)
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Postby sevendogs » Sun May 07, 2006 6:54 am

The best and most popular in USA coyote hunting dogs are staghounds. Staghound is a mix of Scottich Deerhound with Greyhound and sometimes with admixture of Borzoi and Saluki. Pure Borzoi, if out of good hunting lines, would catch and kill coyotes well. Unfortunately, most of them in USA are just show and pet dogs. I have a few good friends among coyote hunters with sighthounds.
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Postby Young'in » Sun May 07, 2006 2:57 pm

These guys here use Walker hounds i think. The hounds kill them themselfs. http://nitro.20m.com/

Opps i didn't notice that i already posted that site.
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Postby yote_hunter » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:41 am

i live in southern iowa and the most popular dogs around here are the walker hounds and the blackand tan hounds. Where i live all it is is alot of hills and timber so u need a dog with a good nose and that can fight because speed doesnt matter here. Grey hounds are good to only if there is alot of open ground for them to see because they are not fighting dogs
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Postby Fosse » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:42 am

Wow...
You must have been very bored to pull this one out the archives...
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Postby acf123 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:25 pm

Any hound for running them, Best kill dog I ever had was a big airdale.
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Postby yote_hunter » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:21 pm

i live in southern iowa and the two most popular hounds are the walker hounds and the black and tan hounds. The speed of the dog has nothing to do with the hunts in southern iowa. Here the dogs need a good nose on them and they need to be fighters. Thats why walkers and black and tans a highly recomended here. grey hounds are good dogs if u have wide open country for them to run on. They are amazingly fast but they arent really that heavily into fighting. i would perfer a walker over anything though just because they have an amazing nose on them and they are hellashes fighters
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Postby tail chaser » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:36 pm

Years ago I saw footage of a guy who used a dog or dogs as bait! Yotes would move into kill then he would shoot them from sidehill or outcrop, it was wild! I geuss you would have to be confident in your shooting skills and damm sure your gun didn't jam. I think the guy was from Montana.
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Postby muzzynat » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:07 pm

My neighbors had a Great Dane that had a passion for killing 'yotes. It was never trained, and wasn't real big on killing (never seemed to bring skunk or coon in), but man, when it saw a yote, it was like lightning. I don't know that any ever survived the initial hit (which seemed to break the neck/back).
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Postby sevendogs » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:05 am

The best dog for catching and killing coyotes is the Staghound. This became a breed specialized for one particular function - catching and killing coyotes. This dog has a history over 100 years in America. Greyxounds break their legs hitting barb wire fences and they overheat in hot summer weather. Irish Wolfhound is too slow to catch a coyote. This is why we have staghounds for this purpose. I have freinds in Wyoming and Utah, which can help you to find good staghound pups. We have Staghounds here, in Virginia. Huge aggressive hunting dogs with enough speed and stamina to catch and kill a coyote singly.
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Postby MsDeerHunter » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:14 pm

I've seen a man hunt coyotes with Curs. They would run around and when the coyote spotted it, run back towards the blind where the hunter would quickly dispatch the coyote.
Very strange to me, but interesting.
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Postby bear_dog » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:25 am

show me those #50 coyotes and I'll show you 3 trig/walkers that will strech them in 5 min. after catching one. been doing these for 42 years and still loving it. a little blood on the nose and ears and ready to go again . happy hunting
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Postby sevendogs » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:31 am

Bear_dog,ow it happened that coyote hunters across Uta, Wyoming, South dakota and other prairie states overlooked Walker Hounds? They use staghounds for over 100 years period, adding blood of other breeds to their longdogs and staghounds. They hunt them from rig and they are still not always fast and bold enough to catch and kill a coyote. May be your Walkers would stretch a coyote, if they catch it. The fact is they cannot catch it, because scent hounds are too slow. There are many breeds, which would kill a coyote, such as Pitbull Terriers, Airedale Terriers, etc., but they are lacking the speed and endurance to catch it. How do you hunt your Walkers? From the rig on the track?
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Postby Doogie » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:21 pm

Julys, Trigs, and Running Walkers are running dogs (aka fox hounds) not treeing dogs, they were brought over by the early Americans settlers from England. They are what the treeing scenthounds orginated from. Every scenthounds ancestry can be traced back to the fox hound, execpt for the Plott, they were more of a cur than hound to begin with.

MsDeerHunter is called Decoying, coyotes are very territorial, they will chase any other canine that invdes their terrtory especialy when they have pups in the den. They are more concerned, about the other canine then the 12 guage thats waiting for them.
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Postby sevendogs » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:51 pm

Decoying is antirely different kind of hunting. I personally liek open field coursing with sighthounds. For decoying you do no need much of a hound. Perhaps many other then hounds dogs could do it.
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Postby Doogie » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:00 pm

you decoy with Curs not Hounds, you dont chase the coyotes in Decoying, the coyote chases the cur back to you not the other way around. its kinda like trolling for coyotes LOL
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Postby sevendogs » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:24 am

I Kazakhstan, red fox is hunted with one-three Saluki, no shooting needed at all. The dogs find, chase, catch and kill it on their own. They are not very big, but they are fast, strong and aggressive at hunting. Possibly, the would go after coyote in North Dakota.
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Postby brigitesmith1 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:33 am

Dogs are extremely helpful for hunting because of their acute sense of smell and sound.

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Coyote hunting with dogs

Postby salmonslayer2010 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:49 am

We live in michigan and hunt coyotes with dogs. We use alot of different kinds of dogs. We have had our best bet with Walker hounds, plots, and crogans. these dogs will actually chase the coyote down and kill it. Yeah we do spend alot of time at the vet. We always put at least 3 dogs down. We have killed 66 coyotes this year
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